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Monday, October 5, 2009

LINK FROM PJS CHATWAL SPEAKS.... CHANGE OF MINDSET...

1.      THE FOLLOWING POST IS PASTED FOR THE INFORMATION OF ALL VETERAN BROTHERS:-
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There is need of change of mind-set among the Indian Defence Officers inheriting the Britsh Legacy


The Indian veterans have probably used their ultimate weapon of returning the medals far too early in their movement..... by Vice Admiral Harinder singh

Dear Members,An article of topical interest by a retired naval officer A Bhardwaj is forwarded for your info pl.RegardsLEADERFrom “Dewey Canyon III” to Action at Jantar MantraAtul Bharadwaj font-sizeThe Indian veterans need to identify with the civil society. They have probably used their ultimate weapon of returning the medals far too early in their movementIn 1971, many US War veterans had joined the national mainstream to protest against the invasion of Vietnam and Laos. The peaceful anti-war protest by the veterans in Washington, called “Operation Dewey Canyon III” began on 19 April 1971. On April 23, more than 800 veterans, one by one, tossed their medals, ribbons, discharge papers and other war mementos on the steps of the Capitol Hill, rejecting the Vietnam war and the significance of those awards. The protest shook the US government and received wide media coverage.Recently, the Indian veterans decided to do something similar. After protesting for more than two months at Jantar Mantar in Delhi and various other locations across the country, they finally decided to return their medals to the government. As many as 5000 medals were handed back. Undoubtedly, it is shameful on the part of the government and the administrators to be utterly disdainful of the soldiers’ plight. The veteran’s demands are plain and simple. All they are asking for is onerank one-pension. They are hardly demanding the moon, especially when one sees that “secretaries to the government, judges, MPs and MLAs have been granted one-rank onepension. That covers the full executive, legislature and top babus,” says Karan Thapar, a noted journalist. But almost all political parties have turned a blind eye to this long pending demand of the veterans.However, despite the use of this Bramha-Astra (returning medals), the veterans involved in the protest have hardly been able to awaken the national consciousness and shake people (leave alone the government) out of deep slumber, in the same manner that the US veterans had done in 1971. The question is why is this so? Many involved in the protest say that the movement is still in its infancy-they are not getting the support they need from the serving community. One fully agrees with the protesting veterans when they blame the politicians and the bureaucrats for their double speak. But what needs to be probed is why is the general public not rising up to show solidarity with the veterans? And why is the media so lukewarm owards the protestors? The public sees the entire movement to be based on a very narrow agenda of pay hike, something which they themselves have to grapple with in their daily professional life. Therefore, neither the media nor the public sees any novelty in the veteran’s movement. The nation sees the military man to be a giver, somebody who willingly sacrifices his life for providing security or “public good” for the nation. Contrast this with the emotions evoked in 1971 by the US veterans returning the medals. The American public saw them as a part of the nation, someone who could be trusted to walk alongside them o protect the nation from the clutches of warmongers. It was a national cause in which veterans participated, therefore, it was natural for the public to feel aggrieved and the White House to rise up to take some concrete measures to ameliorate the deteriorating confidence in the State. But the Indian veterans’ actions smack of parochialism. If only, they could align themselves more with people’s concerns. If only they could make efforts towards getting closer to the society at large, perhaps they would not have to rue the fact that the politicians turn a deaf ear to their valid demands. Currently, the Indian armed forces community is neither fully a part of the government’s decision making apparatus nor is it fully a part of civil society. Conscious effort will have to be made to abolish terms like “bloody civilians” from military parlance. It is only then that the Indian public will respond in the same manner as the American public responds to their military (In the US Presidential elections, candidates’ often flaunt their military service to seek the approval of the electorate). It is to be understood by the veterans that bureaucrats will never move the files in their favour and the politicians will continue to pussyfoot. It is only the civil society, which can put pressure on the government. And for the civil society to take up cudgels on behalf of the veterans, the veterans will have to show solidarity whenever the civil society comes out on the streets for a just national cause. Now some may argue that this could lead to greater militarism of the society or vice versa the military may get more civilianised in the long run. But the fact is that the civil-military amalgamation never leads to erosion of democratic ethos. In fact such interactions only help to make the country stronger. On the contrary, when the military tries to reach closer to the seat of power, the threat to democracy gets exacerbated and becomes dangerous. It is high time that the Indian military began understanding that the ambit of civil-military relationship extends beyond the narrow confines of flag ranks equations vis-a-vis their counterparts in the civil services.Atul Bhardwaj Editor Salute is a retired Naval officer. He can be contacted at atul.salute@gmail.com Vice Admiral Harinder SinghC 26, Sector 23, Noida 201301Tel 0120-2412412, 9811668776

Posted by Indian ExServicemen Movement at 1:59 AM
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Veteran Prabhjot Singh Chhatwal said...

Dear Veterans (Vice Adm.) Harinder Singh and Atul Bhardwaj,Regards.Sir(s),How can you expect that the Indian Defence Officers, inheriting the British mind-set, will delete the term "bloody civilians" from their military parlance when they have not, yet, learnt to accord proper respect to their own subordinate ranks which they deserve due to their age, education, official designation on re-employment and their status in civil society? Even if a subordinate person retires as Judge,IAS,PCS. Asstt. Labour Commissioner, Asstt. Secretary, Deputy Director from a Central or State Deptt. these officers will wish him to stand with the rank and file if they come to know about his rank in Defence. How can such persons expect to have respect and co-operation from their own veteran brethren, leave aside the civilians? I hope, I am not misunderstood for having touched the ailing nerve. Veteran Prabhjot Singh Chhatwal PLS Retd.
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FLASH! FLASH!! FLASH!!! - GOOD NEWS TO ALL VETERANS FROM VET.PRABHJOT SINGH, PRESIDENT IESL PANJAB UNIT

       ALL VETERAN BROTHERS ARE HEREBY INFORMED THE FOLLOWING GOOD NEWS:-
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Dear Veteran Gavini,


Regards. Good News for Underprivileged Veterans.One Rank One Pension (Improvrd pension for Underprivileged Veterans ) as was announced in Budget and then Paliament and finally By Prime Minister on 15-08-2009  IS BEING PROCESSED BY THE FINANCE MINISTRY AND ORDERS LIKELY TO BE ISSUED SOON.

 However. this organization has faxed the reminder to Defence Minister with copy to Director Pension, Deptt.of Sainik Welfare, Govt of India. Copy given below which you may paste on your blog for the information of Veterans, please.

Veteran Prabhjot Singh Chhatwal PLS Retd.
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IESL/13/2009           Dt. 5 Oct.2009

To : Sh. A.K.Antony,
Minister for Defence ,
Govt of India,
South Block, Sena Bhawan,
New Delhi-110 011.

Sub: Post –Sixth CPC Demands of Veterans.

Respected Sir,

The veterans, all over India, were, in fact, highly elated on your announcement in regard to the payment of all arrears, in respect of sixth CPC to Veterans(ex-servicemen) before Diwali.

This organization takes liberty to remind, your good-self, that the orders regarding your Government's much publicized announcement, One Rank One Pension for PBORs (Veterans below the Commissioned Ranks) has not been issued yet. As such, how can they expect their arrears of One Rank One Pension before Diwali?

Is it a clerical delay or otherwise ? But, Sir, it will not be out of place mention that if the same is delayed, credit for doing good things will be taken by your adversaries. The Veterans are thinking to celebrate BLACK DIWALI if they are not given One Rank One Pension before Diwali.

Now it is up to your what it wants to do.

But we, on our part, would wish to remind you to do the needful at the earliest and garner the well wishes from the veterans for your government.

With a hope for an early action,

Sd/-
( Veteran Prabhjot Singh Chhatwal PLS Retd.)

Copy to; S.Harbans Singh ,Director, Pesion, Deptt. of
SainikWelfare, Ministry of Defence.Govt
of India, Sena Bhawan, New Delhi for
information, please.
Sd/-
( Veteran Prabhjot Singh Chhatwal PLS Retd.)
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Sunday, October 4, 2009

URGENT MODIFICATION/AMENDMENT REQUESTED/NEEDED : TO AFSI 1/S/08

          In the interest of dignity/status attached to ARMED FORCES, and keeing in view the overall well-being and welfare of troops and their families, the following modifications,amendments are suggested / requested to be carried out /effected to the AFSI 01/S/2008, urgently:-

Heading: - PBOR be replaced with  "AIRMEN OR OTHER RANKS" (ACs/NCOs/WOs/HON COs RANKS)

Definitions, Para 3:-

(a) PBOR term may be replaced with "AIRMEN OR OTHER RANKS"(ACs/NCOs/WOs/HON COs RANKs), AS the same denotes all ranks OF ACs TO HONY COMM OFFR RANKS including Class IV Civilian Staff and Nc(E), BELOW OFFICER RANKS, which is not proper by any AF standards. The Class IV and NCs(E) form a different class by themselves. Thus clubbing them all into one class gives wrong signals,

such as, ALL OF THEM ARE EITHER GROUP 'D' OR GROUP 'B'. Obviously,PBOR means only there are  (1)OFFICERS CLASS and (2)BELOW OFFICERS CLASS.

(h) MSP :- The fixed rates of Rs.6000/-&2000/- may be DISPENSED WITH,  as the same reasoning could be deduced as stated at (a) above.

 MSP MAY BE FIXED AT A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE TO THE BASIC PAY OF ALL AIRMEN, AS THEIR SERVICES ARE BATTLE PRONE. (The High Level Empowered Committee headed by the Then RM Shri Sharad Pawar opined that the AF Personnel's services are distinct and a SPECIAL DISPENSATION IS NEEDED (even for their pensions). Therefore, it would be just to fix MSP

(1) PREFERABLY  50% OF BASIC PAY OF AIRMEN/OTHER RANKS (DOUBLE THE RATE OF  NER ALLOWANE @25%  to the basic pay GIVEN TO CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES(WHOSE SERVICES ARE NOT BATTLE PRONE), OR

(2) The Same Rates given to the MNS officers (whose services are not  BATTLE PRONE).

( j) GCB pay existed for long. Should find a distinct place.

Para 5(C) MSP:  Same reasoning  as stated at (h) above.

Para 13. ENTRY LEVEL SCALES.

      ALL SCALES BE RAISED BY ONE STEP ABOVE.

      THAT IS STARTING WITH A RECRUIT'S GRADE PAY AT Rs.1900/-, AC - 2000/, LAC-2400/ AND CPL-2800/- IN PB-1.

      SGTS BE MOVED UPTO PB-2, GP 4200/-  AND  SGTS (TECH WITH DIP AND EDN INST)WITH  BE MOVED TO 4600/- GRADE PAY, JWO TO 4800/- WO TO 5400/ IN PB-2 AND MOVE MWO AND HON COS TO PB-3.

PARA 14. PROMOTION:-
    
       The present dispensation of 3% increase of pay on promotion is unjustified. This is given for annual increment.  Annual increment and Promotion are TWO different entities. Hence at least a 10% increase in existing pay is justifiable on account of hard earned promotions/ACP/DACPs.

Para 15. ACP : In the present form it is detrimental to the interests of airmen. May be formulated on the lines of orders issued in respect of civilian employees.

APPENDIX "A"

        The present Scale of pay of JWO X Group- 5530-7780 appear to be erroneously printed.
This may be corrected to 5770-8290.

        The pay scales for SGT (Dip) and Edn Inst are not mentioned. May be included now.

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WEARING OF UNIFORM AFTER RETIREMENT DURING CEREMONIALS

1.      All Veteran Brothers may kindly note the following guidelines for Wearing of Uniform After Retirement During Ceremonials:-

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Air Force Regulation No. 422

All permanent commissioned officer retired from service may wear service uniform on special occasions when attending ceremonials or functions of a military nature, and when the wearing of uniform would appear appropriate. The uniform of substantive rank/ two years acting rank may be worn.

Honorary Commissioned officers may wear uniform on the following occasions {barring-when dismissed on disciplinary grounds}:-

Official parties at Rashtrapathi Bhawan/Raj Bhawan
Embassy
Ex-servicemen rallies / Independence Day
National day
When appearing in courts
Aid to civil power
When serving President/Governor

Note: Prevailing uniform or uniform which was existing at the time of retirement can be worn. There is no policy on wearing of side cap alone on ceremonial or occasions as listed above
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FOR VISIT OF RETIRED PERSONNEL TO AIR FORCE STATIONS

Air Hqs vide their letter Air Hq/C 23691/3/PM(B) dated 22 Oct 03 has informed that for seeking entry to any AF installation for any purpose, only original identity card issued to AF personnel at the time of retirement /discharge is legally acceptable as proof of identity.

Photocopying of identity documents, for any purpose, is tantamount to forging of government documents which is a criminal offence. All members are advised to avoid making photo copies of identity cards even for ECHS scheme.
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TRAVEL CONCESSIONS TO ARMED FORCES PERSONNEL

         The extracts of Air HQ/Railway Board /Air India letters on the concessions available to the AF personnel and their families is posted below for the information of all Veteran Brothers:-
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Tele: 7162                Air Headquarters (VB)
                                New Delhi - 110 011

Air HQ/23483/5/1/PS(Wel)   28 May 2004
Air Force Association
AF Stn, Race Course Camp

Issue of First Class/Second AC Sleeper Complementary Card Pass to the Recipients and Widows of winers of Gallantry Awards

1. Reference is made to your letter No. AFA/ASSO/124 dated 19 Mar 2004.

2. The clarification sought by you on the subject is as under:-

(a) Ist class/IInd AC Tier Complementary Cards Passes are issued by the Indian Rlys Authorities to the recipients of Gallantry Awards (SPECIALLY FOR CHAKRA SERIES AWARDS). This facility ceases after the death of the awardees.

(b) The facility for issue of complementary card pass to the widow of posthumous awardees' remain continue.

3. For availing this facility the awardee himself/widow of posthumous Awardee has to apply for issue of one Card on plain paper to the Indian Rlys Authorities concerned along with 2 photos (passport size) and service certificate.

---Sd/---
(ST Rajan)
Jt Dir (Wel)
Dte of PS
For Chief of Air Staff

Encl: As above.
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Government of India
Ministry of Railways
(Railway Board RBE NO. 18/96)

NO.E(W) 96 PS P-6/22 New Delhi dtd 23.02.1996

The General Managers
All Indian Railways

Sub: Issue of First Class/II AC Sleeper Complimentary Card Passes to Recipients of Gallantry Award and Widows of winners of Gallantry Awards

1. The Ministry of Railways have decided to issue Ist Class AC 2 Tierr complimentray card passes to recipients of gallantry awards like Param Vir Chakra, Mahavir Chakram Vir Chakra and to the widows of posthumous gallantry award winners, along with a companion. The pass will be available for travel from any railway station to any railway station on the Indian Railways except on Metro Railway, Calcutta. The pass will not be available by Rajdhani and Shatabdi Expresses. The pass will be issued valid for one year from the date of issue.

2. The passes will be issued by the Office of the Divisional Railway Manager and Headquarters Office of the Railways on receipt of an application on plain paper from the r3ecipient of the gallantry award or the widow of the posthumous winner of gallantry award giving the following details:-

Name of the recipient of gallantry award (in block letters)

Residential Address

Attested photocopy of citation of the gallantry award.

In case of widows of posthumous winners of gallantry award, attested copy of Pension Payment Order should also be enclosed along with photo identity card issued by local office of the Ministry of Defence.

Two copies of recent passport size photographs of the recipient of the such awards or the widows of the posthumous awardee in the case may be attested by a gazetted officer should be enclosed with the application.

3. Suitable instructions may kindly be issued in this regard to all concerned.

4. Suitable and adequate publicity may be given regarding the issue of the complimentary card passed to the recipients of gallantry awards.

5. This issues with concurrence of the finance Director of Ministry of Railways.

6. Please acknowledge receipt.

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(R Sethuraman)
Jt Director Establishment (Welfare)
Railway Board
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Indian Airlines Limited
(Commercial Headquarters)

From:                                To
Director Commercial          General Managers Commercial
Indian Airlines Limited.       Indian Airlines Limited.
New Delhi                         Eastern/Southern/Northern/Western Region/CSC

Ref. No. HCD/8-R/260 Date 11th June, 2001 Circular No. 1385 (Tariffs)

Clarifications on Armed Forces and Other Related Discounts

Many queries have been received by us on the grant of discounts to various categories of Armed Forces and Police Personnel. We give below the clarification of the various queries received by us.

Query (i) Are Retired Para Military Personnel entitled to the Discount?

Clarification: (i) : The discount is offered only to those Personnel of Para Military Forces who are in active service. Retired Para Military Personnel are not entitled to the discount.

Query (ii) : Are Retired Police Personnel who are recipients of Police Medals for Gallantry entitled to 75% Discount?

Clarification (ii) : Yes, Retired Police Personnel who are recipients of Police Medals for Gallantry are entitled to 75% Discount.

Query (iii) : The level of discount to be offered to Armed Forces Personnel who are in active Service (from Indian Navy, Air Force, Army) and are Recipients of Highest Bravery Awards.

Clarification (iii) : Only those Armed Forces Personnel who are in active service and are also the Recipients of Highest Bravery Awards (Level I and II ) are entitled to 75% discount. All other Armed Forces Personnel are entitled to 50% discount only.

Query (iv) : The level of Discount to be offered to the family members of the Disabled Officers?

Clarification: (iv) : The level of Discount for family members of all eligible categories of Armed Forces and associated Personnel (including Disabled Officers) is 50%, irrespective of the level of discount offered to the concerned officer.

It may please be noted that Family Members of only following categories are eligible for the discount:

(i) Armed Forces Personnel (from Indian Navy, Air Force, Army)
(ii) General Reserve Engineering Force (GREF)
(iii) War Disabled Officers
(iv) Paramilitary Forces:
- Border Security Force (BSF)
- Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF)
- Indo Tibetan Border Police (ITBP)
- Central Industrial Security Force(CISF)
- Railway Protection Force (RPF)
- SSB
- National Security Guard (NSG)
- Assam Rifles
- Coast Guards
- Intelligence Bureau

Query (v) : Are the widows of Posthumous Recipients of Bravery Awards/Gallantry Awards and other categories eligible for the discount.

Clarification: (v) : No. Only War Widows of Armed Forces Personnel (from Indian, Navy, Air Force, and Army) are eligible for discount.

Please advise all concerned.

---Sd/----
(Neera Manchanda)
Manager(Tariffs)
For Director Commercial

CC: G.M (F), N.R./W.R/E.R/S.R/CRA
CC: G.M. (Sales), (CS/Admn/TS), (A&I)
CC: Principal, CTC, HYD., Govt. Audit Party, Hqrs.
CC: Chief Manager Marketing, Alliance Air
CC: Dy. G.M. (Raj Bhasha), IAL, Hqrs. - For hindi translation
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Saturday, October 3, 2009

AN EX-SAINIK'S CLOSE LOOK AT THE CoS REPORT : IMPORTANT DATA/INTERESTING FACTS REVEALED

1.        Knowing well and fully aware that the CoS Report of 30.6.09 is pasted on the blog's "Other Links", the following highlighted view points of an EX SAINIK, is posted for the benefit of information of all Veteran Brothers:-

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     That the CoS consisted of Secretary, ESM Welfare, Secretary, DOPT, Secretary, Pens&Pens Wel, Secretary Expenditure, Home Secretary, Defence Secretary and headed by the Cabinet Secretary.

     That the OROP implied by them as " that UNIFORM PENSION BE PAID TO THE ARMED FORCES PENSIONERS RETIRING IN THE SAME RANK WITH THE SAME LENGTH OF SERVICE, IRRESPECTIVE OF THEIR DATE OF RETIREMENT,

 AND, ANY FUTURE ENHANCEMENTS IN THE RATES OF PENSION BE AUTOMATICALLY PASSED ON TO THE PAST PENSIONERS."

       That the demand for grant of OROP was considered by the Govt. a number of times in the past. In 1980-81(29 years ago), The Estimates Committee on Resettlement of ESM noted the DISPARITY IN PENSION between past and present Pensioners of equal rank was INEQUITABLE and a JUST SOLUTION be found to END THIS DISPARITY.

        That, in 1984, the High Level Empowered Committee on the Problems of ESM headed by Shri KP Singh Deo, the then RRM, recommended that the 4th CPC may consider the issue particularly in the light of the PRINCIPLE ESTABLISHED  regarding the PENSION OF JUDGES OF SUPREME COURT AND HIGH COURTS.

        That the 4th CPC stated that the amount of pension UNDERGOES CHANGES AS AND WHEN PAY SCALES ARE REVISED and any attempt to equivalise pension w.r.t. the Revised Scales of Pay would amount to RETROSPECTIVE APPLICATION OF PAY SCALES.

        Subsequently,in 1991,  another High Level Empowered Committee chaired by the then RM, Shri Sharad Pawar, while rejecting OROP demand, had observed  that the TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF SERVICE of Armed Forces Personnel were DISTINCT and as such a SPECIAL DISPENSATION for them was required. Based on this, grant of a ONE TIME INCREASE (OTI) was recommended and GRANTED.

        That the 5th CPC nearly granted the pensions by bridging the gap inthe pensions of Pre and Post 1.1.86 and upgraded to the levels of 1.1.96 pensioners.

        That in 2003, an Inter Ministerial Committee on OROP submitted report on 29.4.04 recommending Modified Parity based on the Maximum of the Revised Scales of pay introduced w.e.f.1.1.96 but was rejected by the Ministry of Finance.

       That in Jan 2005, the PM ordered a GoM Committee to look into the issue which recommended that THERE WAS JUSTIFICATION FOR IMPROVING THE PENSION BENEFITS OF ORS, PARTICULARLY THE THREE LOWEST RANKS, and  unanimously recommended that the PENSIONS OF PRE 1.1.96 Pensioners may be revised w.r.t. Maximum of Pay Scale of Post 96 Pay Scales. In addition, weightage of 10,8 and 6 years be given to lower 3 ranks. And the benefit was given effect w.e.f.1.1.2006.

       That the 6th CPC stated that the 5th CPC had already granted full parity between pre and post 1.1.86 and a modified parity between pre and post 1.1.96 pensioners, no change is proposed in the existing dispensation. Hence extant provisions may continue.

    That the CoS had heavily relied for NOT ACCEDING TO THE DEMAND OF OROP on the information provided in paras 2.11 (SC Judgement), 2.12(View of Min of Law and Justice), 2.13(second view of Min of Law & Just), 2.14 (Mod persistant view that A STONG CASE DEFINITELY EXISTS for bringing the QUANTUM OF PENSION of Pre 96/10.10.97 Pensioners AT PAR WITH Post 1.1.96/ 10.10.97 and the Pre 1.1.96 pensions as the gap between the pensions of the past and present retirees has WIDENED after implementation of 6th CPC, AND

     THAT the Grant of OROP CANNOT BE IMPLEMENTED for ESM alone and a DEMAND for similar DISPENSATION WOULD ALSO ARISE from pensioners of AUTONOMOUS BODIES, Central/StateUNIVERSITIES/COLLEGES and in ALL OTHER INSTITUTIONS WHERE THE PENSION SCHEME IS APPLICABLE.

       AND the financial implications would then be substantial.

       AND THAT BY SUMMING UP IN PARA 3, THEY HAVE REJECTED THE OROP.

        AND RECOMMENDED THE FOLLOWING:-

        TO RECKON THE PENSION OF ALL PRE-1.1.06 PENSIONERS WITH REFERENCE TO A NOTIONAL MAXIMUM IN THE POST 1.1.2006 REVISED PAY STRUCTURE CORRESPONDING TO THE MAXIMUM OF PRE-SIXTH PC PAY SCALES AS PER FITMENT TABLE OF EACH RANK

        AND ALSO TO CONTINUE WEIGHTAGE OF 10,8 AND 6 YEARS TO LOWER 3 RANKS.

       And most SURPRISINGLY,  in Para 9 of the Report,

       That the FINANCIAL IMPLICATIONS, on account of ARREARS (totalling 9 a)Rs.7.73+b)Rs.4.83+c)Rs.25.00 cr= Rs.37.56 cr) was (ERRONEOUSLY?) shown as Rs.164.5 cr.

       VETERAN BROTHERS, imagine, HOW difficult it was to CoS to reject the OROP demand of ESM !

        BUT, WAIT, WITH THE SAME SET OF REASONS AND JUSTIFICATIONS, IT COULD HAVE BEEN MUCH EASIER FOR THE CoS TO ACCEPT AND GRANT THE OROP!!

        AND MADE THE ENTIRE ESM COMMUNITY A HAPPY LOT !!!

        IS THAT RIGHT !!!!!??????????
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OROP RECHRISTINED AS AVPD (ARMED FORCES VETERANS' PENSION DEMAND)

       Maj Gen RN Radhakrishnan (Retd), in his detailed analysis of CoS Report (To see the full report,  CLICK HERE ) had  re-christined the OROP as Armed Forces Veterans' Pension Demand (AVPD) and summarised the same as below:-

“Let the pay of all pensioners of the Armed Forces be notionally fixed at the rate given to similar officers of the same rank and same length of service after the revision of pay scales with effect from 1.1.2006, and, thereafter, their pension benefits be computed on such basis as applicable to those retiring after the date of implementation with prospective effect from the same date of implementation.

Permit the pensioners to draw an annual increment at the rate applicable to the serving personnel, such that the disparity, if any, that arises due to such increment to the serving personnel, can be set right.

Let a suitable element of compensation, in addition, be allowed for the truncation of service before the age of superannuation permissible for any employee as a matter of right.”        

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Friday, October 2, 2009

FLASH ! FLASH !! FLASH !!! ; SUBMISSION OF OPTION FOR PENSION COMMUTATION - DATE EXTENDED BY 30 DAYS

1.     ALL VETERAN BROTHERS ARE REQUESTED TO NOTE THEMSELVES AND ALSO INFORM OTHER FRIENDS TO SUBMIT THE OPTION FORMS FOR COMMUTATION OF PENSION, AS PER THE LATEST ORDER OF GOVT OF INDIA, MINISTRY OF DEFENCE, ORDER DATED 11 SEP 09.

FOR VIEWING THE ORDER, PLEASE  CLICK HERE

"PAY ARREARS BEFORE DIWALI" - HON.RM AK ANTONY'S DIWALI GIFT TO THE ARMED FORCES

1.      The following IMPORTANT INFORMATION is posted foir the benefit of all concerned:-

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The Defence Minister Shri AK Antony has stressed that all men in the Armed Forces must get all their pay arrears relating to the Sixth Central Pay Commission well in time before Diwali. Addressing the Defence Accounts Day function here today, Shri Antony commended the officials of the Controller General of Defence Accounts for adopting computerisation and speeding-up the salary computation systems.

“One of the major challenges before you all is to render prompt, efficient and hassle free pensionary services to nearly 2 million Ex-servicemen and other retired Defence Personnel”, Shri Antony said. The Defence Minister called upon the Defence Accounts officials to implement optimally the austerity measures announced recently by the Government. “The Prime Minister has underlined the importance of service delivery mechanisms”, he added.

Pointing out that the Defence outlay has been growing around 11 per cent per annum over the last few years, Shri Antony called upon the Defence Accounts Department to ensure fair utilisation of the revenue resources and capital spending for the Defence sector. The Defence Minister later released a vision document for the department. He applauded the department for its valuable contributions in rationalising and simplifying the complicated processes and procedures in the Defence Procurement Manual – 2009.

Earlier, the Controller General of Defence Accounts Smt Bulbul Ghosh announced that a pilot project for payment of salaries to all Personnel Below Officer Rank (PBORs) irrespective of their place of posting and location of their drawing branches through e-payment has been successful and it would be implemented shortly across the country. Speaking on the occasion, the Secretary Defence Finance Smt Indu Liberhan emphasized on the performance audit appraisal system and said though the challenge is daunting, we have to rise to the occasion to fulfil the mandate given to the department.

The Defence Accounts Department (DAD), with its 998 offices spread over 258 locations across the country, handles an annual budget of Rs 1,81,306 crores (2009-10), which accounts for 26% of the total non-plan outlay of the Government of India.

It provides accounting services to the Ministry of Defence, the three Services, and allied organizations like Ordnance Factories, CSD, Military Farms, DRDO, Border Roads Organisation (BRO), Defence Estates, Coast Guard and NCC. Apart from this, officers from the Indian Defence Accounts Service (IDAS), including lady officers, are deployed with the Indian troops on UN Peacekeeping Missions in various troubled spots of the world where they provide valuable financial management, accounting and payment support.

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(Source : CG Employees News 1.10.09)

Tuesday, September 29, 2009

SOME MORE VIEWS : OF OFFICERS NOW

1.       VIEWS OF OFFICERS, MAY ALSO BE NOTED BY ALL VETERAN BROTHERS:-
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Anonymous said...
All the Blogger Fraternity,

I am at pains to explain whatever sad state of affairs I have observed.

Look, as officers we were always Non-Caring, not bothered and almost ignorant of what we should be getting and what our men under our command must be getting. Any one talking about these including our higher ups were frawned upon as "Baniyas". There was a faith and unsuspecting environment in the Armed Forces that the Accountant in CDA will interprete the rules for you and whatever he does is the best.

That faith and ubderstanding prevailled upto the highest echleons of the Armed Forces including amongst successive Chiefs and hiher leadership. IAS in MoD knows much more and better than them and what ever he was doing was in the National interest and better for the Armed Forces and the Country.

It is very unfortunate, sad, bad and unforgiving that the IAS lobby and the accountants of the IDSA took all advantage of the faith and successively betryed the faith. The situation todya is "Every thing they do is bad".

After all who has been responsible for this loss of faith and unresolved Confrotatation. I would say both, our higher echleons as also MoD parafernalia. The compulsions of "Competetive Bueracracies" must have been well understood by our bosses who caved in at all stages unsuspectingly or because of share incompetence.

At the ground level, we as officers are supposed to know and find out each and every thing about the Pay, perks and entitlements of our men we command first and then about ourselves. Calling someone a "baniya" because one cares for his entitlement is sheer absurdity and wrong attitude. In fact neglecting that is sheer negligence.

I am rudely surprised to find out the level of ignorance amongst serving AF officers as also the Retired ones about Rules and Regulations governing them includin Pay and Perks. If an officer does not know it, he has no right to command.

We ourselves have provided opprtunities for our own downgardation. We are not firm because we are oblivious of knowledge of Rules and Regulations. We are not firm as to we have doubts about our place in the system and then in darkess we waver. Lack of firmness is due to our lack of knowledge and Competence.

So before Service officers blame others, they must improve on their knowledge. How many of you have taken on CDA (O) and confronted his staff and you are right and He is wrong. How many times has an officer bullicked a PAOR official for delay or wrong remittance to his company personnel.

If you can do it why crib. I know that firing the gun correctly is your priority, but welfare of your men (including his pay and perks) is eqaully your prime duty. One takes that oath while passing out.

The IAS in MoDand the IDAS men need to rubbed with their own salt. That salt happens to be Rules and Regulations. It is incumbant on all officers to know it better than others.

Please do not ask childish question which reflect very poorly on you. That shows where the root cause ouf exploitation of AF officers lie.

You all want to be equatted with IAS and IPS, well then prove worthy of it, at least at awareness level. If a DC starts banking on his PA (or his Company Clerk), well he will be out in five days if not less.

Wake up...

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(SOURCE : INDIAN MILITARY)

SOME VIEWS OF ISSUES OF AF PENSIONERS

1.       ALL VETERAN BROTHERS... SOME MORE VIEWS HERE.....

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 VNatarajan, President, Pensioners' Forum, Chennai has left a new comment on your post "EXCHANGE OF CORRESPONDENCE ON CoS REPORT APPROVAL ...":

Dear All

It is very easy to use common jargons and steer away from truth. For example, reg revsion of pay scale of Lt Gen., it is stated:

" (iii) Revision of Lt. General Pension after carving out a separate pay scale for them.

[These proposals emanate from Sixth CPC’s Report and are to be implemented w.e.f. 1.1.06)"

We are all at a loss to know wherefrom such a proposal emanated? In fact any such proposal was buried deep by the very pay commission in one of its recommendations to include the concerned scale of pay S30 in a Pay Band along with other lower scale(s).

There should be a sense of responsibility and acountability with respect to correct INTERPRETATION and IMPLEMENTATION of the SCPC's recommendations in letter and spirit. If this had been done, many of the problems could have been tackled/resolved "HONESTLY" and "OPENLY".Now devious DIVIDE & RULE / BACK-DOOR/ BEHIND THE SCREEN methods are being adopted to wriggle out of "FORCED" situations!.

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VNatarajan has left a new comment on your post "EXCHANGE OF CORRESPONDENCE ON CoS REPORT APPROVAL ...":

Dear All
In contn of my post dt 27th Sept above (VNatarajan)

My friend PKR had gone further to get at the truth thru RTI in regard to the creation of the Scale S30 -say for Lt Gens etc. His query and the reply received are as follows:
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dear all,
placed below is my RTI query and the reply from MOF:

Q. Wrt to recommendation (v) please furnish the extracts fo the SCPC recommendations from which the above recommendation of the COS is purported to have emenated , for the creation of the scale of 67000-79000, for addl Secretary/Lt generals , may kindly be forwarded.

R. This department does not posses in material form any recommendation of the 6th CPC regarding the creation of the scale of 67000-79000.

PKR
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All of you know that the MOF is a signatory in the Report of COS>

Where are the ETHICS in Governance? How can the Pensioners have any faith in the whole system when the authorities "gang" up to deprive the pensioners their "minimum" rightful pensions? We have several instances of DICHOTOMY adopted by the authorities who matter- and the above ONE is one of the HIGHEST! VNatarajan

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SOME VIEWS OF BLOGGERS ; ON THE PLIGHT OF ARMED FORCES PENSIONERS PRE AND POST 1.1.06

1.      ALL VETERAN BROTHERS MAY KINDLY SEE THE FOLLOWING VIEWS OF SOME OF OUR BROTHERN BLOGGERS, ON THE STATE OF OUR AFFAIRS:-

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BABS said...


HI all SNCOs . we have been denied our status as SNCOS by the arbitary action of the 6cpc of dumping us in PB 1.This action by 6cpc and subsequent approval by GOI has caused wide spread heartburn among the sergeants of the IAF and equi.in other two services. the railways and some other ministries have already rectified the anomaly but the MOD is yet to respond.so I enjoin upon the GOI MOD to take a favorable decision in tis regard to keep the SNCOS morale up.sergeants of group x had a starting asalary of 5000 in the old scale and on multification by 1.86 [the pay commision factor] will surely place them in PB-2 by all means.The rational under this assessment by the 6 cpc is not understood as most of the sergeants are skilled workers with around 10 years of service. Normally they are equated to ASI of police and junior engineers [diploma] in the civil parlace.Now the dcision to dump them along with the lowest pay band warrants urgent rectification. The million dollar question is how can a soldier who is employed in manitenance of sophisticated aircrafts, missiles , and submarines be dumped in PB-1. THERE IS WIDESPREAD RESENTMENT among the serving as well as retired SNCOs in the matter as can be seen from the comments in almost all defence related blogs.I would like to exhort all ex. org. if they are worth their salt to take up the issue at appropriate levels

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from
Daya Nand Sharawat
Sep 23, 2009 at 4:18 PM

Sir,

1. I am extremely happy that you are vigorously highlighting the cause of PBOR pensioners. Since the implemention of the 6th CPC it is seen that the and the pension issue of PBOR has been neglected.

2. I am enclosing my views on the issue. I hope you will give due consideration and publish the same in your blog.

Thanking you,
Yours faithfully,
EX Sub DN Sharawat

PLIGHT OF PBOR PENSIONERS : POST 01 JAN 2006


1. One year has passed since the implementation of the 6th CPC. When the 6th CPC recommendations were implemented, the Services HQ has raised four issues as major anomalies concerning Defense personnel. Three issues were related to the Officers regarding enhancement of pay and grade pay and one was related to PBOR regarding restoration of extant pensionery benefits reduced by the 6th CPC.
2. Now is the time to take stock of all the above four issues. All the issues pertaining to Officers have been resolved and necessary notification issued. But the only issue of PBOR which was just to maintain the status quo regarding pension fixation formula is still pending. There was a lot of hue and cry and MOD officials were being blamed for causing the delay till the issues of Officers were not resolved. But once the notification of placing Lt Cols in pb-4 and granted hag to Lt Gens issued, all voices fell silent. Nothing has been heard regarding enhancement of PBOR pension. It seems that the inclusion of PBOR pension issue was only symbolic.

3. Various news agencies have reported during Sep 08 that the Govt has agreed in principle for granting extant pensionery benefits to Jawans as hitherto. But even after one year Jawans are waiting the notification of pension table.. It is still not known as to what is stopping mod in notifying pension table when the same has been accepted one year back. We are not worried on the part of mod for causing this inordinate delay but are disheartened to see that officers class is silent on the issue.

4, When all the Central Govt pensioners are getting their enhanced pension as per 6th CPC since Sep 08, lakhs of armed forces Jawans retired after 01 jan 2006 are still getting pension as per old scales ie. as per 5th CPC. Even the banks are not granting them DA since last year on the plea that the current DA is on the revised rate of pension whereas pension of Jawans retired after 01 Jan 2006 is still on the old scale. Pensioners of all other Central Govt departments will get their complete arrear since 01 Jan 2006 by the end of this month, but for the Armed Forces jawans who retired after 01 Jan 2006, leave alone the arrear , they even don’t know what their pension will be. Have the officers accepted such treatment if meted out to them?

5. Even on the OROP issue nothing has come out in black and white as yet, still voices are being raised to stall its notification saying that it pertains to Jawans only. Officer’s contention is that Jawans and officers be counted as one category for grant of OROP. The main plea behind grant of OROP is early retirement. Officers start retiring after attaining the age of 54 whereas majority of the Jawans retire before attaining the age of 45. Furthermore, pension fixation formula for Officers and Jawans is different. However, all will be happy if Offrs also get OROP. But, instead of projecting their case only, Offrs should show sensitivity to the issues of Jawans also.

6. As per the 6th CPC pay band , a washerman, safaiwala, cook, mess waiter of the same rank will draw the same pay as a clerk, storekeeper, tech pers , inf soldier and even AEC instruction in gp ‘y’. It is not that tradesmen should get less pay but the point is that the pay should be fixed as per the nature of the job and qualification attached to the rank and trade. Further, all officers pick up the rank of Lt Col on completion of 13 years of service and placed in PB 4, whereas majority of the Jawans enrolled as Sepoy remain HAV till 24 years of service and remain in same PB 1 for 24 years. Still, these issues don”t merit consideration

7. So, it is time that issues of Jawans be addressed in true spirit and MOD be expedited to issue necessary notification of pension table as the Jawans who have retired after 01 Jan 2006 and still retiring have already incurred huge financial loss on this count, as their commutation of pension is also held up.

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Monday, September 28, 2009

GUIDELINES : COMPLAINTS ON PENSION PROBLEMS/GRIEVANCES TO PCDA(P) ALLAHABAD

          All Veteran Brothers are hereby informed to follow the undermentioned guidelines while petitioning their complaints on pension matters to PCDA(P) scrupulously:-

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Complaints.

1. If you want to represent any problem to the office of PCDA (P) please furnish following information/particulars along with full details of your problem/grievance.

(i) Your name, Regt. No., Record Office/H.O.O. from where you retired.

(ii) P.P.O,. No. and date under which the pension was granted in your favour

(iii) Name of the P.D.A./Bank from where you are drawing your pension with saving bank/current account number.

(iv) TS/PS/HO number allotted to you (incase of DPDOs, Treasuries, Post Offices and PAOs).

Arrear of Pension:-

1. Pension undrawn for more than one year becomes time barred, which is paid only after sanction of the Competent Authority i.e. TO/PAO/DPDO. In the case of PSBs, the arrear claim on the prescribed form should be submitted to the bank to enable them to obtain the sanction of PCDA (P) Allahabad/CDA Chennai/CDA (PD) Meerut.
Joint Notification of Family Pension:-

1. The widow in whose favour the pension has been jointly notified should report the death of her husband to the P.D.A. and submit the death certificate to enable him to commence payment of family pension from the date following the date of death of her husband.

Nomination for LTA:-

1. Pensioners are advised to nominate their families in whose favour family pension has been jointly notified to enable her to receive lifetime arrears in case of his death. In case his wife is not alive he should nominate other members of his family to avoid inconvenience in obtaining Life Time Arrears by the Legal heirs.

Certificates:-

Submit periodical certificates regarding re-employment/ employment/ earning widowhood to your P.D.A. on due dates in order to regulate your pension correctly.

Physically Handicapped Mentally Retarded Children:-

1. If you have any physically handicapped/mentally retarded child, you may apply to your HOO/RO/Army Hqrs. for making an endorsement in your service & pension record and keep the acknowledgement of this intimation.

RSMB:-

1. You are advised to appear before the Re-Survey Board on due date as arranged by the Record-office. In case you fail to appear before R.S.M.B. for a long time, submit delay explanation alongwith non conviction and non-reemployment certificates to the R.O. for arranging a fresh R.S.M.B.

Rejection of Dis. Pension:-

In case disability pension is rejected, you may make an appeal to the Govt. of India within 6 months through Record Office, if you feel that the disability in your case is due to service factors. Similarly family of the deceased can also make an appeal, if the claim for special family pension is rejected.

Family Members:-

1. If a pensioner has married after discharge or has children born after discharge, or wife/children have died report the matter with full details and certificates (birth/death/marriage/remarriage) to Record Office/Head of the Office for record in Kindred Roll portion of Sheet-roll/Service Book in order to avoid any difficulty in the event of need.

2. If joint notification of family pension has not been done in your case, apply to your P.D.A. on the proper form to enable him to process the joint notification of F.P. through R.O./H.O.O., A.H.Qrs.

Two Pensions:-

If a pensioner is in receipt of more than one pension, he should furnish full details to the P.D.A. for revision of both the pensions and regulating dearness relief on both the pensions

Restoration of Commuted Portion of Pension:-

1. Commuted portion of pension will be restored by the P.D.A. on his own without obtaining any order from this office after obtaining requisite application after 15 years from the date of first payment or from the date pension was reduced in case of subsequent commutation. Convicted Pensioner:-

If a pensioner is convicted or sentenced to imprisonment by a Court, his pension will be suspended. He should submit the copy of the Court order to the PDA to enable him to report the matter to this office for obtaining the orders of the Competent Authority. On release from the Jail he should report the matter to the P.D.A. and submit the requisite documents to enable him to refer the matter to this office for obtaining the orders of the C.E.A. for restoration of his pension.

Annual Identification:-

1. A life certificate is required to be produced by the pensioner, who is unable to appear due to bodily illness or infirmity and desires payment through a representative once in the month of November each year.

2. Pensioners who are receiving payment from PSBs and D.P.D.Os should appear before the P.D.A. once each year in the month of November for identification

Court Attachment:-

1. No pension whether due or to become due can be attached by process of any Court until it has actually been paid as per pension Act XXII of 1871.

2. No pensioner can assign or sell any interest in respect of the pension not then due.

Insane Pensioner:-

1. If a pensioner becomes insane, his dependents should obtain a certificate from the Magistrate and produce the pension certificate and life certificate for drawing pension. If the pensioner is lodged in an asylum the cost of pensioner's maintenance will be paid by the dependents to the asylum authorities as per orders of the Court on an application by the asylum authorities under the provisions of section 25 of Lunacy Act.

Payment of Dearness Relief:-

Group 'A' officers are not entitled to dearness relief during re-employ under a Govt. office/company/Corporation/Undertaking/Autonomous body. PBORs are entitled for dearness relief during re-employment under above organizations subject to production of a certificate from his re-employer that his pay has been fixed at the minimum of the scale of the post on which he has been re-employed and his entire amount of pension has been ignored in fixation of pay on re-employment. Drawal of Pension Through Agent:-

Pensioners who desire to draw pension while residing outside India may open a non-resident account in any of the Scheduled Public Sector Banks in India. He should execute a power of attorney in India before proceeding Ex.India on a non-judicial stamp paper or on a plain paper affixed with adhesive stamp paper of appropriate value, before the Notary Public or any Magistrate. The pensioner shall furnish life certificate once a year through High Commission/Embassy of that Country where he/she resides. If he has changed his nationality in Country other than South Africa and Israel. Sanction of this office will be required through his P.D.A. for continuation of his pension.

Release of Withheld Gratuity:-

1. The withheld amount of D.C.R.G. is payable after six months from the date of retirement without any authorisation from this office.

2. If a pensioner desires to get his pension account transferred from one P.D.A. to another in India, he is required to submit an application to his present P.D.A. No application is required to be submitted to this office. Transfer of pension accounts outside India is not permissible.

Commutation of Pension:-

Commuted portion of pension is required to be reduced from pension from the date of payment or after 3 months from the date of issue of P.P.O. and in the case of P.S.Bs from the date, capitalised sum is credited to the pensioners' account. If the commuted portion of pension is not reduced as above, please point out to the P.D.A. to avoid heavy recovery at a later stage.

Loss of Documents:-

1. In case P.P.O. is lost in transit before receiving first payment, PDA should be approached to furnish loss certificate to the Pension Sanctioning Authorities for issue of duplicate copy of the P.P.O.

2. In case pension certificate is lost before receiving first payment, Pension Sanctioning Authority may be approached through respective Record Office/Head of the office for issue of duplicate Pension Certificate.

3. In case pension certificate is lost, exhausted, mutilated after receiving first payment, P.D.A. should be approached to issue duplicate/additional copy of Pension Certificate.

Receipt of Pension Papers:-

1. Pension sanctioning authorities send the PPOs to the respective Record Offices in respect of PBORs, Heads of the office in respect of Defence Civilians and to the Pension Disbursing Authorities in respect of Commissioned officers.

2. Record offices send the PPOs along with the Descriptive Rolls to the desired P.D.A. with a copy to the pensioners along with Pension Certificates. Similarly Heads of the offices send the PPOs and the Pension certificates to the PDAs with a copy to the Pensioners. PPOs along with descriptive particulars in respect of commissioned officers are sent directly to the PDAs under intimation to the officers.

3. On receipt of Call letter from the PDAs or within reasonable time, the pensioners should report to the PDA for receiving first payment. The pensioners are required to produce pension certificate/intimation letter received from the Head of office/RO/PSA as the case may be to the P.D.A.

Missing Pensioner:-

1. In case a pensioner is missing, his family should lodge an F.I.R. with the police authorities. If the pensioner is not traced after one year she should obtain a certificate from the police authorities and report the matter to the PDA and submit the required documents i.e. Indemnity Bond to him to enable him to submit the case to this office for sanction of family pension from the date of lodging F.I.R.


(SOURCE : CENTRAL GOVT STAFF NEWS)

PANJAB NEWSLINE MORE IN NEWS : EXSERVICEMEN SEEK BETTER DEAL FOR HAVALDARS AND SUB MAJORS

1.    All Veterans brothers may please see these News on the Press Conference held on 27.9.09 by Vet.Prabhjot Singh, President, IESL, Panjab and Chandigarh:-
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Punjab Newsline More in News... Ex-Servicemen Seeks Better deal for Havildars and Sub-Majors 
GAGANDEEP AHUJA
Monday, 28 September 2009

PATIALA: Indian Ex-Services League, Punjab & Chandigarh has sought a better deal for Havildars and Sub Majors from the Centre Govt. Prabhjot Singh Chhatwal, president of league in his memorandum faxed to Defence Minister, A.K. Antony, has asked the govt. to change the Pay-Band for Havildars and equivalent ranks from PB-I to PB-II and for Sub. Majors and equivalent ranks from PB-II to PB-III since the Sixth Pay Commission have not done justice with these ranks.

League stressed upon the govt. that the soldiers of the rank of Havildar form the real back-bone of Defence Forces and Sub. Major acts as a Chief executor of the strategy in the war. These two ranks have been virtually crushed by the partial recommendations of Sixth Central Pay Commission and further faulty implementation of the recommendations regarding their pay scales. The Havildars have been virtually equated to class-IV civilian such as Peons, Chowkidars, Mali and Dhobi etc. in respect of pay.

League has further asked the Minister to release immediately the orders for promised ONE RANK ONE PENSION for Junior Commissioned Officers, Senior Non-Commissioned Officers, Non-Commissioned Officers and other ranks which was announced by Finance Minister in Union Budget on 6 July 2009, and then by the Minister him self in the Parliament and finally by Prime Minister on Independence Day but the order regarding the same has not not been issued so far.

League has also reminded the Minister that the govt. has also promised to give pension to soldiers up to the rank of Hav. @ 70% and to JCOs @ 60% of the last pay drawn to compensate for their early compulsory retirement, but to the great disappointment of the soldiers, these orders have also not seen the light so far whereas orders regarding change of Pay Band from PB-III to PB-IV for the Lt. Col. have been issued long ago although these recommendations were made by the same group of ministers in the same report. With this partial treatment given to lower ranks, a great resentment is prevailing in the Defence Forces and among the veterans which is not good for nations security.

League has further demanded two pensions for the widows of ex-servicemen who drew two pensions during their life time. Because of early compulsory retirement, most of the soldiers have to seek employment in civil deptts. to compensate their meager pension which they draw by virtue of their service in the Defence Forces. Such veterans draw two pensions after their retirement from civil deptts. but their widows are not entitled for second pension as per the present pension policy of the govt.

Along with this, League has gone further to demand befitting alternate re-employment for the soldiers up to the age of 60 years like their civilian counter parts since about 90% among the soldiers are compulsory retired prior to their superannuation to keep the forces young.

League has vehemently stressed upon the govt. to fulfill the demands of veterans at the earliest lest they may come on the roads like civilian counter parts and the govt. will be in a critical position to handle that volcanic situation.

Last but not the least, the league has forcefully demanded of the govt. not to use the term PBORs for Junior Commissioned Officers, Senior Non-Commissioned Officers, Non-Commissioned Officers and other ranks as they feel much humiliated by being referred as such.
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THE TRIBUNE NEWS ; BETTER PAY SOUGHT FOR HAVILDARS

     THE FOLLOWING NEWS APPEARED IN THE TRIBUNE IS POSTED FOR INFO OF ALL VETERAN BROTHERS:-

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Patiala, September 27

The Indian Ex-Service League, Punjab and Chandigarh, has demanded better pay scale for havildar and subedar-major.

In a statement issued in this regard today, league president Prabhjot Singh Chhatwal said they had sent a memorandum to defence minister AK Antony requesting the government to change the pay band for havildars and equivalent ranks from PB-I to PB-II and subedar-majors and equivalent ranks from PB-II to PB-III.

While stressing that soldiers of the rank of havildar were the backbone of the defence forces and subedar-majors chief executors of strategy in war, Chhatwal said the two ranks had been crushed by partial recommendations of the sixth pay commission.

The league has also urged the government to issue orders for one rank, one pension for the junior commissioned officers, senior non-commissioned officers and other ranks. — TNS

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INFORMATION ON ARMY WELFARE PLACEMENT ORGANISATION

1.    ALL VETERAN bROTHERS MAY KINDLY GO THROUGH THE FOLLOWING USEFUL INFORMATION:-

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Army Welfare Placement Organisation (AWPO)

The Army is an excellent source of skilled manpower, right across the board. Every year, thousands of highly trained Officers, including Short Service Commissioned Officers and Women Officers, Junior Commissioned Officers and Jawans leave the Service and are keen for a second career. Army Personnel guarantee all round high standards. They are reliable, self motivated and committed individuals with extensive specialist training and a ‘can do’ attitude.

The Army Placement Agency (APA) is a welfare organization of the Indian Army which is functioning under Adjutant General’s Branch of Integrated HQ of Ministry of Defence (Army). It was established in May 1999 to assist retiring/ retired Army personnel in seeking avenues for suitable jobs in civil as second career options. This establishment is in addition to, yet independent of, the Directorate General Resettlement (DGR).

Employment Opportunities for ESM

Junior Commissioned Officers (JCOs)

•Middle Level Managers – Security Officer, Transport Fleet, Communications, Estate.

•Supervisor – Security, Communications, Workshop, Hostel, Estate.

•Store-in-Charge, Fire Fighting Officer, Computer Operator / Programmer

•Office–Supdt, Assistant, Clerk, PA, Steno

Sepoys and Non Commissioned Officers

Engineering Trades

•Draughtsman / Surveyor – Trigs, Field, Auto Carto, Topo.

•Overseer – Electrical, Mechanical, Buildings & Roads.

•Mechanic – Refrigerator, Motor Vehicles, Heavy Vehicles, Instruments, Engineering Equipment, Machinist.

•Electrician – Engineering Equipment, Motor Vehicles, Heavy Vehicles, Aviation Aero Engine / Avionics.

•Helio Worker, Photo Writer, Welder, Tin & Copper Smith, Brick Layer, Painter & Decorator, Limb Maker, Tool Maker, Armourer, Pattern Maker.

Telecommunication Trades

•Operator – Cipher, Radio, Line Equipment, EPABX, Generator, Line Test Recorder

•Mechanic – Telecom, Electronics Systems, Radio, Generator, Radar.

Medical

•Assistants – Nursing, Laboratory, Blood Transfusion, X-Ray, Health, Operating Room, Special Treatment, Psychiatry, Ambulance, Dental.

•Radiographer, Dental Hygienist, Pharmacist, Laboratory Technician, Nursing Technical.

Technical Trades

•Technician – Ammunition, Petroleum.

•Catering – Supervisor, Cooks, Waiters.

•Carpenter, Blacksmith, Painter, Tinsmith, Tailor, Washerman, Safaiwala, Saddler, Barber, Kennelman.

•Bandsman – Piper, Bugler, Drummer.

•Education – Teacher, Translator & Interpreter (Foreign Languages), Physical Training Instructor / Drill Instructor.

Common Trades

•Clerks - General Duties, Store – Control / Provisioning, Postal, PA / Steno.

•Security Guards, Peons, Drivers – Heavy / Light / Recovery Vehicles, Caretakers – Messes / Guest Houses.

•Store Keepers – Armoured Vehicles, Ammunition, General Stores, Clothing, Mechanical Transport, Signals.

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Army Placement Organisation -
Why conditions for employment of retired Military Personnel?

An Indian army soldier has right to work after retirement. A government official is expected to keep secrecy only while in office. He is not a slave of some arbitrary rules until his death. If our security can be threatened by retired army men, then that shows how weak our setup is, and this should be corrected. Working as a private citizen after retirement is not a right only for bureaucrats. Military personnel are also entitled to to work freely without any pre- conditions after retirement
 
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(SOURCE : REPORT MY SIGNAL BLOG 28.9.09)

Sunday, September 27, 2009

FLASH ! FLASH !! FLASH !!! - PRESS CONFERENCE HELD

 ALL VETERAN BROTHERS ARE HEREBY INFORMED  THE FOLLOWING :-

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Dear Veterans,


Regards. Press conference was held as per schedule.Only five TV channles obliged us as there were a few other programs in the city . Channels were-Channel No.1, TV-24, Voiceof Natio,Times TV and DE TV. Today being Naumi festival also . Twelve News papers sent their press reporters. New papers were- Tribune Punjabi,Ajit Punjabi, Ranjit Punjabi ,Spokesman Punjabi, i,Charhdikala Punjabi,Jagbani Punjabi,Dainik Bhaskar Hindi,,Dainik Jagran Hindi, PunjabKesari Hindi,Tribune English, Indian Express Enlish and,Hindutan Times English.Let us see what is result>We should hope for the best. O.K.Bye. Have a good time.

Veteran Prabhjot Singh Chhatwal PLS.Retd

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Saturday, September 26, 2009

BREAKING NEWS ...FLASH ! FLASH !! FLASH !!! : PRESS CONFERENCE TELECAST/PRINT MEDIA

1.    KIND ATTENTION ALL VETERAN BROTHERS -------
H E R E   C O M E  T H E   B R E A K I N G  N E W S  ON 
P R E S S   C O N F E R E N C E.  PLEASE READ  ON----

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Dear Veteran Gavini,


Regards,Thanks for posting the mailed Press Notes and the letter faxed by this organization to Defence minister and Hon'ble Prime minister for the ionformation of Veterans.
 
A large no.persons from Press and Electonic media have been invited and they, all, have promised to attend the Press Coference.
 
Veterans should watch the Channels like,Aaj Tak,India TV,News-24,Channel no.1, Voice of India, IBN 7, NDTV, PTC and  Zee TV in the evening news tomorrow and a day after for the coverage.
 
News paper will cover the same on 28/29-09-2009.I shall mail the Press clipping in a couple of days after the Press Conference if possible.
 
Please paste this as Flash news also for information of veterans.
 
OK veterans have a good time.

PRABHJOT SINGH CHHATWAL,
PRESIDENT, IESL
PANJAB AND CHANDIGARH UNIT 
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GOVT ORDERS ON PENALITY FOR DELAYED PAYMENTS : PENSION PAYMENT PROCEDURES

1. All Veteran Brothers may kindly peruse the following Govt Orders on the above subject, for their information and record purposes:-

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No. 38/64/98-P&PW(F}
Government of India
Ministry of Personnel, Public grievances & Pensions
(Department of Pension & Pensioners' Welfare)
Third Floor, Lok Nayak Bhavan,
New Delhi-110003'

Dated the 5th October, 99

Office Memorandum\

Subject: Implementation of recommendations contained
in para 61 of 44th Report of Parliamentary Standing
Committee on Ministry of Home Affairs- Time Schedule
for disbursement of Pension" regording.

In para 61 of the 44th Report of Parliamentary
Standing Committee on MHA, the Committee had observed
that timely payment of pension and retirement dues
is not being made to the retiring employees of
Union Govt. TheCommittee drew attention to the
Employees Provident Fund Scheme and the Notification
issued by the Ministry of Labour on 27.10.97
amending the Employees Pension Scheme, 1995. In
terms of provisions under Employees Provident Fund
and Misc. Provisions Act. 1952, the Ministry of
Labour inserted a new provision 17A Payment of
Pension which interalia says that "in case the
Commissioner fails without sufficient cause to
settle a claim complete in all respects within
30 days, the Commissioner shall be liable for the
delay beyond the said period and penal interest
at the rate of 12% per annum may be charged on the
benefit amount and the same may be deducted from
the salary of the Commissioner," On the same
analogy the Committee has recommended that
similar provisions may be formulated and enforced
to ensure timely payment of pension and retirement
dues to the retiring employees of Union Government.

2. As per CCS(Pension) Rules 1972, no interest
is payable on delayed payment of pensions,
commuted value of pension. However, the above
recommendation of the Committee on delayed
payment of retirement dues has been exarned in
this Department in consultation with Department
of Personnel and Training, Department of
Expenditure, Ministry of Fin., and it has been
decided to implement the recommendation as
detailed below:-

(a) All pensioners' dues are to be settled by
strictly following the procedure laid down in
Rules 56 to76of CCS (Pension)Rules, 1972.

(b) Wherever delays are anticipated,provisional
pension should be sanctioned inlmediately.

(c)Any delay in processing of pension resulting
in pension not being authorized on the last
working day of retirement of the government
servant, should be brought out by the Head of
Office to the next higher authority who would
watch the settlement of delayed cases.

(d) In respect of delayed payment of gratuity
wherever itresults in payment of penal interest
at the rate applicableto GPF deposits (at
present 12% p.a. compounded annually) under
Rule 68 of CCS(Pension)Rules 1972.Secretary of
the Administrative Ministry or Department would
initiate action to fix responsibility, at all
levels to recover the amount from the concerned
dealing Official,Supervisor and Head of Office
in proportionate to their salary by following
the prescribed procedures for the purpose. This
should be strictly enforced with immediate effect.

(e) Once it has been decided to pay gratuity
the amount should be paid immediatetly, pending
a decision regarding payment of interest. This
would reduce the interest liability if any on
payment of delayed gratuity.

(f)In the matter of delayed payment of leave
enncashment, the Department of Personnel and
Training in their note dated 2.8.99 has
clarified that there is no provision under
CCS (Leave)Rules for payment of interest or
for fixing responsibility. Moreover encasnment
of leave is a benefit granted under the leave
rules and not a pensionary benefit.

(g) In the matter of CGEGIS,the Department of
Expenditure, Ministryof Finance in their V.D.
No. 709/EV/99 dated 6.8.99 has clarified that
payments under CGEGIS cannot be termed as
terminal benefits. As payments under this
Scheme are made in accordance with the Table
of Benefit which takes into account interest
upto the date of cessation of service, no
interest is payable on account of delayed
payments under the scheme. They have also
clarified that CGEGIS payment cannotbe with
held(and no Government dues can be recovered
from the accumulation except the amount
claimed by the financial institution as due
from the employee on account of loans taken
for house building purpose.)

3. Contents of this OM may also be brought
to the notice of concerned attached/
subordinate/field organisations under the
administrative control of respective
Ministry/Department, for compliance.

4. In so far as persons serving in the
Indian Audit and Accounts Department are
concerned, these orders issued after
consultation with the Comptroller &
Auditor General of India.

5. Hindi version will follow.

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(Smt. GangaMurthy)
Director (PP)

To

All Ministries/ Departments of Government of India
Comptroller and Auditor Genera,l of India

( As per Standard Mailing List)

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(SOURCE : GOI, MIN OF PER PUB GRIE PENS AND PEN WEL)