THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION IS POSTED FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL VETERANS:-
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In an order which would benefit a large number of armed forces personnel, the Supreme Court has ruled that disabled soldiers who opt pre-mature retirement at their own request are entitled to disability pension.
Defence personnel with disabilities attributable to or aggravated by military service are eligible for disability pension. The government, however, had been refusing payment of disability pension to personnel who had left the forces voluntarily on compassionate grounds. The reason given for denial was that such personnel were technically not deemed to have been ?invalided out? of service.
Upholding a Delhi High Court order, A division bench of the apex court comprising Justice P P Naolekar and L S Panta a few days ago dismissed a special leave petition (SLP) filed by the Central government against the high court order.
Acting upon a petition filed by ex-soldier Mahavir Singh Narwal, a division bench of the HC, headed by Justice Vijender Jain had, in 2004, held that disabled personnel obtaining release on compassionate grounds would also remain entitled to disability pension.
The Central government had gone into appeal in the case and the Supreme Court stayed the operation of the HC order till it passed final orders in January and dismissed the SLP.
Entitlement Rules for disability pension notified by the central government in the year 1982, simply provide that an individual would be deemed to have been “invalided” if, at the time of release, he was in a lower medical category than the one in which he was recruited.
Lawyer and author of a book on military benefits, Capt Navdeep Singh informed that the Army had also time and again taken up the issue for grant of disability pension for voluntary retirees with the central government and successive pay commissions but to no avail. The issue has also reportedly been taken up with the Sixth Pay Commission.
The Pension Regulations for the Army provide that disability pension can be granted if a person is invalided out with 20 per cent or more disability. The Regulations further provide that persons discharged on completion of terms of engagement or attaining retirement age shall also be deemed to have been invalided out.
Many ex-servicemen and lawyers have been contending that disability pension is granted as a compensation for injuries and diseases suffered due to military service and an early compassionate or voluntary discharge had nothing to do with the underlying reason behind such pension.
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(SOURCE : MAJ NAVDEEP SINGH'S INDIAN MILITARY BENEFITS BLOG)
Tuesday, October 13, 2009
WELFARE SCHEME(GOVT OF INDIA) : PRIME MINISTER’S MERIT SCHOLARSHIP SCHEME
THE FOLLOWING INFO IS POSTED FOR INFORMATION OF ALL VETERANS:-
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1. INTRODUCTION
Service conditions of Defence Personnel are extremely, exacting, tough, rigorous and peculiar to the Services. To maintain a fit and youthful profile, defence personnel particularly of lower ranks are retired at a young age with limited pension, saddled with pending domestic responsibilities. The Army’s engagement in counter-insurgency operations in J&K and the North East has also resulted in casualties every year, leaving behind widows and children in need of support.
To encourage higher technical and professional educational for the wards of widows and Ex-servicemen of Armed Forces, it has been decided to introduce a new scholarship scheme known as the Prime Minister’s Scholarship Scheme from the Academic Year 2006-07.
2. ELIGIBILITY
Persons eligible for the Scholarship
Wards of Ex-servicemen and their widow(below Officer rank)
•Wards of widows of Ex-servicemen died in harness due to causes attributed to military service
•Widows of Ex-servicemen died in harness
•The scheme is open only for widows and unmarried wards of Ex-servicemen/widows. However, marriage/re-marriage at a subsequent date would not disqualify the awardee.
Order of Perference
If the number of applications for scholarship exceeds the approved number of scholarships, the orders of preference for allotment of scholarships will be as under:-
Category1 Wards/widows of defence personnel killed in action
Category 2 Wards of Ex-servicemen disabled in action and boarded out of service with disability attributable to military service
Category 3 Wards/Widows of defence personnel who died while in service for causes attributable to military service.
Category 4 Wards/Widows of Defence personnel disabled in service with disability attributable to military service.
Category 5 Wards of Ex-servicemen in receipt of gallantry awards
Category 6 Wards of Ex-servicemen (PBOR)
Courses eligible for scholarship
First professional degree program in engineering, medicine, dental, veterinary, MBA,MCA, etc., duly recognized by the respective Government regulatory bodies, such as All India Council for Technical education, Medical Council of India etc.
The scheme is open for courses mentioned above in recognized institutions irrespective of its location in the country vis-a vis the residence/domicile of the wards of the ESM/Widows.
Academic Requirement
At least 60% marks at the 10+2 level for the initial sanction. For renewal in subsequent years, 50% marks each year.
3. DURATION OF THE SCHOLARSHIP
Two to five years as approved by the concerned regulatory body for that program.
4. AMOUNT OF SCHOLARSHIP
The amount of scholarship would be as follows:
•Rs.1250/- per month for boys
•Rs.1500/- per month for girls
The payment of scholarship will be granted after the successful completion of each academic year, as per the percentages mentioned in the academic requirement.
Note: The amount of scholarship including any other scholarship of financial assistance from any other source will not exceed the total amount of scholarship available under this scheme.
5. RENEWAL OF SCHOLARSHIP
Once the scholarship is awarded, the candidate is required to apply for renewal of scholarship for the subsequent year in the prescribed proforma alongwith a certificate form the College/Institute indicating that the candidates continues to study in the subject course and State of Marks indicating the percentage.
6. GENERAL INSTRUCTIONS AND PROCEDURE
i.Completed application are to be dispatched directly to Secretary, Kendriya Sainik Board, Wing No.5, West Block-IV, RK Puram, New Delhi-110 066, so as to reach by 31 August every year.
ii.Incomplete application forms and applications received after the specified date will NOT be considered. A wrong or misleading entry will lead to rejection of the application. Any deletion/correction should be initialed by the applicant himself/herself.
iii.Receipt of only those applications received by the due date will be acknowledged. Late receipted applications will not be processed.
iv.Selected applicants will be informed directly by the Kendriya Sainik Board.
v.Two stamped self addressed envelopes of 27x12 cms are to be attached with each application so as to facilitate acknowledgement of receipt of the application form.
vi.The scheme is open for widows and unmarried wards of ESM/widows. However, marriage/remarriage subsequently would not disqualify a person.
vii.The scholarship is admissible for two children only per family. Therefore, particulars of all children should be indicated in appropriate column.
viii.If an applicant granted scholarship on the basis of statement made in the application si at any subsequent date foung to have made false statement in any respect, both the wards of ESM/widow will forfeit the scholarship and no application from the ESM/widows would be entertained in future. In addition, the scholarship already granted would also have to be refunded.
ix.The attested photocopies of the supporting documents duly attested both by the Secretary, Rajya/Zilla Sainik Board and OIC Records, in case of validly adopted sons/daughters prior to the death of the deceased are to be attached with application form.
x.If the marks in the qualifying examination are expressed in grades only, then equivalent percentage(100 point scale) duly certified by the concerned Board must be furnished.
xi.All wards receiving scholarship will open individual bank accounts in the principal bank designated by the institute concerned.
xii.The wards should have secured a minimum of 60% marks at 10+2 level or equivalent in first attempt and continue to secure minimum of 50% marks uninterrupted for continuation of scholarship in every year for duration of courses ranging for a maximum period of 2 to 5 years as prescribed for that program of study. A person having been granted scholarship for one program would not be entitled for scholarship for another program.
xiii.Scholarship is meant for Medical, Dental, Veterinary, Engineering/MCA,MBA and other professional program recognized by the concerned government regulatory body for the program such as AICTE,UGC,Medical Council of India etc.
xiv.The scheme is open for courses mentioned above in recognized institutions irrespective of its location in the country vis-a vis the residence/domicile of the wards of the ESM/widows.
xv. The rate of scholarship would be Rs.1250/- per month for boys and Rs.1500/- for girls for the course as per duration mentioned in para(xii) above.
xvi.The payment of scholarship will be granted after the successful completion of each academic year, as per the percentages mentioned in “Criteria for eligibility”.
xvii.The payment for the scholarship will be centrally made by KSB directly, through account payee cheques, to be credited in personal account of the individual ward or through electronic clearing system.
xviii.If the number of applications exceeds the approved number of scholarship, the selection will be made on the basis of order of preference indicated in para 2.2 above.
xix.The amount of scholarship including any other scholarship of financial assistance from any other source should not exceed the total grant of assistance available under this scheme.
xx.The Ministry of Defence, Government of India can suitably modify these instructions to remove difficulties, if any, for successful implementation of the scheme, as may be necessary from time to time.
xxi.The decision of Secretary,KSB with regard to the admissibility of the scholarship to the wards of Ex-servicemen/widows from Armed Forces shall be final.
xxii.Ex-servicemen entitlement will be governed as per the existing definition of Ex-servicemen as may be amended from time to time.
xxiii.The application form can also be downloaded from the official websidte i.e., http://www.dgrindia.com/ However, in case the applicant submits the application in the downloaded form, the same will be accompanied by a Demand Draft or Indian Postal Order for Rs.30/- in favour of Secretary, Kendriya Sainik Board, New Delhi.
Download the Application form for PM.S SCHOLARSHIP SCHEME FOR EX-SERVICEMEN/WIDOWS 2008-09
(SOURCE : Dept.of Sainik Welfare, AP)
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1. INTRODUCTION
Service conditions of Defence Personnel are extremely, exacting, tough, rigorous and peculiar to the Services. To maintain a fit and youthful profile, defence personnel particularly of lower ranks are retired at a young age with limited pension, saddled with pending domestic responsibilities. The Army’s engagement in counter-insurgency operations in J&K and the North East has also resulted in casualties every year, leaving behind widows and children in need of support.
To encourage higher technical and professional educational for the wards of widows and Ex-servicemen of Armed Forces, it has been decided to introduce a new scholarship scheme known as the Prime Minister’s Scholarship Scheme from the Academic Year 2006-07.
2. ELIGIBILITY
Persons eligible for the Scholarship
Wards of Ex-servicemen and their widow(below Officer rank)
•Wards of widows of Ex-servicemen died in harness due to causes attributed to military service
•Widows of Ex-servicemen died in harness
•The scheme is open only for widows and unmarried wards of Ex-servicemen/widows. However, marriage/re-marriage at a subsequent date would not disqualify the awardee.
Order of Perference
If the number of applications for scholarship exceeds the approved number of scholarships, the orders of preference for allotment of scholarships will be as under:-
Category1 Wards/widows of defence personnel killed in action
Category 2 Wards of Ex-servicemen disabled in action and boarded out of service with disability attributable to military service
Category 3 Wards/Widows of defence personnel who died while in service for causes attributable to military service.
Category 4 Wards/Widows of Defence personnel disabled in service with disability attributable to military service.
Category 5 Wards of Ex-servicemen in receipt of gallantry awards
Category 6 Wards of Ex-servicemen (PBOR)
Courses eligible for scholarship
First professional degree program in engineering, medicine, dental, veterinary, MBA,MCA, etc., duly recognized by the respective Government regulatory bodies, such as All India Council for Technical education, Medical Council of India etc.
The scheme is open for courses mentioned above in recognized institutions irrespective of its location in the country vis-a vis the residence/domicile of the wards of the ESM/Widows.
Academic Requirement
At least 60% marks at the 10+2 level for the initial sanction. For renewal in subsequent years, 50% marks each year.
3. DURATION OF THE SCHOLARSHIP
Two to five years as approved by the concerned regulatory body for that program.
4. AMOUNT OF SCHOLARSHIP
The amount of scholarship would be as follows:
•Rs.1250/- per month for boys
•Rs.1500/- per month for girls
The payment of scholarship will be granted after the successful completion of each academic year, as per the percentages mentioned in the academic requirement.
Note: The amount of scholarship including any other scholarship of financial assistance from any other source will not exceed the total amount of scholarship available under this scheme.
5. RENEWAL OF SCHOLARSHIP
Once the scholarship is awarded, the candidate is required to apply for renewal of scholarship for the subsequent year in the prescribed proforma alongwith a certificate form the College/Institute indicating that the candidates continues to study in the subject course and State of Marks indicating the percentage.
6. GENERAL INSTRUCTIONS AND PROCEDURE
i.Completed application are to be dispatched directly to Secretary, Kendriya Sainik Board, Wing No.5, West Block-IV, RK Puram, New Delhi-110 066, so as to reach by 31 August every year.
ii.Incomplete application forms and applications received after the specified date will NOT be considered. A wrong or misleading entry will lead to rejection of the application. Any deletion/correction should be initialed by the applicant himself/herself.
iii.Receipt of only those applications received by the due date will be acknowledged. Late receipted applications will not be processed.
iv.Selected applicants will be informed directly by the Kendriya Sainik Board.
v.Two stamped self addressed envelopes of 27x12 cms are to be attached with each application so as to facilitate acknowledgement of receipt of the application form.
vi.The scheme is open for widows and unmarried wards of ESM/widows. However, marriage/remarriage subsequently would not disqualify a person.
vii.The scholarship is admissible for two children only per family. Therefore, particulars of all children should be indicated in appropriate column.
viii.If an applicant granted scholarship on the basis of statement made in the application si at any subsequent date foung to have made false statement in any respect, both the wards of ESM/widow will forfeit the scholarship and no application from the ESM/widows would be entertained in future. In addition, the scholarship already granted would also have to be refunded.
ix.The attested photocopies of the supporting documents duly attested both by the Secretary, Rajya/Zilla Sainik Board and OIC Records, in case of validly adopted sons/daughters prior to the death of the deceased are to be attached with application form.
x.If the marks in the qualifying examination are expressed in grades only, then equivalent percentage(100 point scale) duly certified by the concerned Board must be furnished.
xi.All wards receiving scholarship will open individual bank accounts in the principal bank designated by the institute concerned.
xii.The wards should have secured a minimum of 60% marks at 10+2 level or equivalent in first attempt and continue to secure minimum of 50% marks uninterrupted for continuation of scholarship in every year for duration of courses ranging for a maximum period of 2 to 5 years as prescribed for that program of study. A person having been granted scholarship for one program would not be entitled for scholarship for another program.
xiii.Scholarship is meant for Medical, Dental, Veterinary, Engineering/MCA,MBA and other professional program recognized by the concerned government regulatory body for the program such as AICTE,UGC,Medical Council of India etc.
xiv.The scheme is open for courses mentioned above in recognized institutions irrespective of its location in the country vis-a vis the residence/domicile of the wards of the ESM/widows.
xv. The rate of scholarship would be Rs.1250/- per month for boys and Rs.1500/- for girls for the course as per duration mentioned in para(xii) above.
xvi.The payment of scholarship will be granted after the successful completion of each academic year, as per the percentages mentioned in “Criteria for eligibility”.
xvii.The payment for the scholarship will be centrally made by KSB directly, through account payee cheques, to be credited in personal account of the individual ward or through electronic clearing system.
xviii.If the number of applications exceeds the approved number of scholarship, the selection will be made on the basis of order of preference indicated in para 2.2 above.
xix.The amount of scholarship including any other scholarship of financial assistance from any other source should not exceed the total grant of assistance available under this scheme.
xx.The Ministry of Defence, Government of India can suitably modify these instructions to remove difficulties, if any, for successful implementation of the scheme, as may be necessary from time to time.
xxi.The decision of Secretary,KSB with regard to the admissibility of the scholarship to the wards of Ex-servicemen/widows from Armed Forces shall be final.
xxii.Ex-servicemen entitlement will be governed as per the existing definition of Ex-servicemen as may be amended from time to time.
xxiii.The application form can also be downloaded from the official websidte i.e., http://www.dgrindia.com/ However, in case the applicant submits the application in the downloaded form, the same will be accompanied by a Demand Draft or Indian Postal Order for Rs.30/- in favour of Secretary, Kendriya Sainik Board, New Delhi.
Download the Application form for PM.S SCHOLARSHIP SCHEME FOR EX-SERVICEMEN/WIDOWS 2008-09
(SOURCE : Dept.of Sainik Welfare, AP)
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WELFARE SCHEMES/CONCESSIONS TO EX-SERVICEMEN ; GOVT OF ANDHRA PRADESH
THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION IS POSTED FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL VETERANS:-
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1.2 percent of posts reserved in Group ‘III’ and ‘IV’ in the State services.
2.Cash awards are given to winners of Gallantry and Distinguished service awards. Click here for Details >>
3.Children of Armed Forces Personnel (CAP) hailing from Andhra Pradesh are given reservation in the Educational Institutions as under :-
a) MBBS, BDS, BVSc., Nursing Trg. - 1%
b) Engg, B.Arch., B. Pharmacy, B.Sc(Agri)-- 2%
c) B.Ed.,, ITI, B.Sc(Lib.Sc) - 3%
d) Teachers Training Course - 4%
e) MCA, MBA,LLB, LLM, M.Ed, M.Tech., - 1 in block of 30 seats.
4.Exemption from payment of property tax in respect of the houses owned by Ex-Servicemen/widows of Ex-Servicemen and serving personnel for their self dwelling purpose, for one house/property. (Auth: G.O.Ms.No.83 MA, Dt.15-03-1997 of M.A and U.D (TC) Deptt.,)
5.Enhanced financial assistance @ Rs.500/-p.m. to Non-pensioner II World War Veterans, Rs.400/- for widows of World War Veterans II wef.01-12-2006.
6.The State Govt. have reserved houses constructed Andhra Pradesh Housing Board (APHB) to Ex-Servicemen, widows and serving defense personnel on cost basis as under :-
(a) HIG - 5%
(b) MIG - 5%
(c) LIG - 2%
(d) EWS - 4%
6.Ex-Servicemen who were NCOs and below are entitled for 5 acres dry land or 2.5 acres wet land. Officers and JCO's are not eligible.(Auth: G.O.Ms.No.743, Dt.30-04-1963 of Revenue Department)
7.Ex-gratia grants to all ranks who are seriously disabled and are invalidated out of service – Rs.5000/-. (Author: G.O.Ms.No.25, Dt.17-01-1986 of G.A (Poll.B) Deptt.)
8.Free legal assistance is given to the Jawans, their families, Ex-Servicemen and their dependents where the Government is not a party. The persons requiring legal assistance may apply to the concerned District or Taluk Legal Aid Committee as the case may be. (Author: G.O.Ms.No.1900,Dt.17-12-1971 of Home(Courts.A) Dept.,)
9.VAT on selected items has been exempted by the State Govt on goods sold to service personnel and ex-servicemen through Unit Run canteens(CSD).
10.10 Sainik Rest Houses in Andhra Pradesh. Click here for details . It provides accommodation to serving and Ex-Servicemen, widows and dependents at very concessional rates as under :-
(a) Officers - Rs 30 per day.
(b) JCO's - Rs 15 per day.
(c) OR - Rs 10 per day
Note: For every additional dependent member Rs 5 per day shall be charged.
11.Govt. of Andhra Pradesh have equated Defence Service Trades with Civil trades for employment in Government service.(Author :G.O.Ms.No.16, dt.12-04-1999 of L.E & T. F (Emp) Dept.)
12.Govt. of Andhra Pradesh have equated the educational qualifications in respect of Ex-Servicemen who have put in 15 years of service in the Armed Forces for all purposes (employment ) as under :-
(a) Matriculation at the time of joining Armed Forces
- Graduate
(b) Below Matriculate - Matriculate
13.5 % of Industrial Plots/Sheds on Industrial Estates/Industrial development Areas of the A.P. Infrastructure Corporation has been reserved for Ex-Servicemen for establishment of small scale industries.
14.Ex-servicemen are exempted from payment of examination fee prescribed by UPSC and APPSC for Class-III and Class-II posts for appearing in competitive examinations. (Author: G.O.Ms.No.401, dt.26-07-1973 of G.A(Ser.A) Dept.,)
15.For Self-employment schemes, financial assistance is rendered through AP State Financial Corporation.
16.District Collectors are competent to sanction old age/widow’s pension in deserving case including Ex-Servicemen @ Rs.150/-p.m.
17.War jagir allowance @ Rs.150/-p.a. for one child and Rs.50/- p.a. for every additional child sent to the Armed Forces w.e.f. 19-03-1994.
18.Ex-Servicemen suffering from T.B. are treated on par with NGO's at the State Govt. Hospitals for admission. (Author: G.O.Ms.No.2289, dt.11-10-1976 of Health, Housing and Mun. Admin Department)
19.5 percent reservation in fresh water pond culture.
20.Ex-Servicemen are given preference in allotment of route/national permits by State Transport Authorities.
(SOURCE : Dept.of Sainik Welfare, AP)
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1.2 percent of posts reserved in Group ‘III’ and ‘IV’ in the State services.
2.Cash awards are given to winners of Gallantry and Distinguished service awards. Click here for Details >>
3.Children of Armed Forces Personnel (CAP) hailing from Andhra Pradesh are given reservation in the Educational Institutions as under :-
a) MBBS, BDS, BVSc., Nursing Trg. - 1%
b) Engg, B.Arch., B. Pharmacy, B.Sc(Agri)-- 2%
c) B.Ed.,, ITI, B.Sc(Lib.Sc) - 3%
d) Teachers Training Course - 4%
e) MCA, MBA,LLB, LLM, M.Ed, M.Tech., - 1 in block of 30 seats.
4.Exemption from payment of property tax in respect of the houses owned by Ex-Servicemen/widows of Ex-Servicemen and serving personnel for their self dwelling purpose, for one house/property. (Auth: G.O.Ms.No.83 MA, Dt.15-03-1997 of M.A and U.D (TC) Deptt.,)
5.Enhanced financial assistance @ Rs.500/-p.m. to Non-pensioner II World War Veterans, Rs.400/- for widows of World War Veterans II wef.01-12-2006.
6.The State Govt. have reserved houses constructed Andhra Pradesh Housing Board (APHB) to Ex-Servicemen, widows and serving defense personnel on cost basis as under :-
(a) HIG - 5%
(b) MIG - 5%
(c) LIG - 2%
(d) EWS - 4%
6.Ex-Servicemen who were NCOs and below are entitled for 5 acres dry land or 2.5 acres wet land. Officers and JCO's are not eligible.(Auth: G.O.Ms.No.743, Dt.30-04-1963 of Revenue Department)
7.Ex-gratia grants to all ranks who are seriously disabled and are invalidated out of service – Rs.5000/-. (Author: G.O.Ms.No.25, Dt.17-01-1986 of G.A (Poll.B) Deptt.)
8.Free legal assistance is given to the Jawans, their families, Ex-Servicemen and their dependents where the Government is not a party. The persons requiring legal assistance may apply to the concerned District or Taluk Legal Aid Committee as the case may be. (Author: G.O.Ms.No.1900,Dt.17-12-1971 of Home(Courts.A) Dept.,)
9.VAT on selected items has been exempted by the State Govt on goods sold to service personnel and ex-servicemen through Unit Run canteens(CSD).
10.10 Sainik Rest Houses in Andhra Pradesh. Click here for details . It provides accommodation to serving and Ex-Servicemen, widows and dependents at very concessional rates as under :-
(a) Officers - Rs 30 per day.
(b) JCO's - Rs 15 per day.
(c) OR - Rs 10 per day
Note: For every additional dependent member Rs 5 per day shall be charged.
11.Govt. of Andhra Pradesh have equated Defence Service Trades with Civil trades for employment in Government service.(Author :G.O.Ms.No.16, dt.12-04-1999 of L.E & T. F (Emp) Dept.)
12.Govt. of Andhra Pradesh have equated the educational qualifications in respect of Ex-Servicemen who have put in 15 years of service in the Armed Forces for all purposes (employment ) as under :-
(a) Matriculation at the time of joining Armed Forces
- Graduate
(b) Below Matriculate - Matriculate
13.5 % of Industrial Plots/Sheds on Industrial Estates/Industrial development Areas of the A.P. Infrastructure Corporation has been reserved for Ex-Servicemen for establishment of small scale industries.
14.Ex-servicemen are exempted from payment of examination fee prescribed by UPSC and APPSC for Class-III and Class-II posts for appearing in competitive examinations. (Author: G.O.Ms.No.401, dt.26-07-1973 of G.A(Ser.A) Dept.,)
15.For Self-employment schemes, financial assistance is rendered through AP State Financial Corporation.
16.District Collectors are competent to sanction old age/widow’s pension in deserving case including Ex-Servicemen @ Rs.150/-p.m.
17.War jagir allowance @ Rs.150/-p.a. for one child and Rs.50/- p.a. for every additional child sent to the Armed Forces w.e.f. 19-03-1994.
18.Ex-Servicemen suffering from T.B. are treated on par with NGO's at the State Govt. Hospitals for admission. (Author: G.O.Ms.No.2289, dt.11-10-1976 of Health, Housing and Mun. Admin Department)
19.5 percent reservation in fresh water pond culture.
20.Ex-Servicemen are given preference in allotment of route/national permits by State Transport Authorities.
(SOURCE : Dept.of Sainik Welfare, AP)
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WHO IS AN EX-SERVICEMAN? : STATUS CLARIFIED BY THE GOVT
THE FOLLOWING IS POSTED FOR INFORMATION OF ALL VETERAN BROTHERS:-
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The eligibility of the retired Defence Personnel to the status of Ex-servicemen is governed by the definition as laid down by Government of India, Department of Personnel and Training. The definition has been undergoing changes from time to time. The following is the broad categorization:-
•Those released on or before 30-06-1968:- Any person who had served in any rank (whether as Combatant or not) in the Armed Forces of the Union and has been released there from otherwise than by way of dismissal or discharge on account of misconduct or inefficiency.
•Those released between between 01.07.1968 to 30.061979 (both days inclusive):- Any person who had served in any rank (whether as Combatant or not ) in the Armed Forces of the Union for a continuous period of six months after attestation and released there from otherwise than by way of dismissal or discharge on account of misconduct or inefficiency.
•Those released between 01.07.1979 to 30.06.1987 (both days inclusive):- Any person who had served in any rank (whether as Combatant or not) in the Armed Forces of the Indian Union for a continuous period of not less than six months after attestation if discharged for reasons other than at their own request or by way or dismissal or discharge on account of misconduct or inefficiency and not less than five years of service if discharged at own request.
•Those released on or after 01.07.1987:- Any person who had served in any rank (whether as Combatant or not) in the Armed Forces of the Indian Union and was released/retired with any kind of pension from Defence Budget or released on completion of specific terms of engagement with gratuity otherwise than at his own request or by way of dismissal or discharge on account of misconduct or inefficiency.
•The personnel of Territorial Army(TA) of the following categories, Viz., pension holders for continuous embodied service; persons with disability attributable to military service ; and gallantry award winners retired on or after 15-11-1986.
The personnel of the Army Postal Service(APS) who are a part of the regular Army and retired from such service,(i.e., directly from the Army Postal service itself without reversion to P&T Department) with a pension or who have been released from such service on medical grounds, attributable to military service or circumstances beyond their control and awarded medical or other disability pension are also covered within the definition of Ex-servicemen with effect from 19-07-1989.
Recruits who were boarded out/released on medical grounds and granted medical/disability pension will also be covered under the category of Ex-servicemen for all practical purposes.
The persons discharged before July 1987 under Army Rule 13(3) iii (v) for the reason “service no longer required” will not be eligible for the status of Ex-servicemen. Individuals discharged on or after July 1987 under Army Rule 13(3) iii (V) for the reason “service no longer required” will however qualify for the status of Ex-servicemen , if they are in receipt of pension.
The eligibility of the person to the status of Ex-servicemen will be governed by the definition in vogue at the time of his discharge and will not be affected by the changes in the definition subsequent to his discharge.
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The eligibility of the retired Defence Personnel to the status of Ex-servicemen is governed by the definition as laid down by Government of India, Department of Personnel and Training. The definition has been undergoing changes from time to time. The following is the broad categorization:-
•Those released on or before 30-06-1968:- Any person who had served in any rank (whether as Combatant or not) in the Armed Forces of the Union and has been released there from otherwise than by way of dismissal or discharge on account of misconduct or inefficiency.
•Those released between between 01.07.1968 to 30.061979 (both days inclusive):- Any person who had served in any rank (whether as Combatant or not ) in the Armed Forces of the Union for a continuous period of six months after attestation and released there from otherwise than by way of dismissal or discharge on account of misconduct or inefficiency.
•Those released between 01.07.1979 to 30.06.1987 (both days inclusive):- Any person who had served in any rank (whether as Combatant or not) in the Armed Forces of the Indian Union for a continuous period of not less than six months after attestation if discharged for reasons other than at their own request or by way or dismissal or discharge on account of misconduct or inefficiency and not less than five years of service if discharged at own request.
•Those released on or after 01.07.1987:- Any person who had served in any rank (whether as Combatant or not) in the Armed Forces of the Indian Union and was released/retired with any kind of pension from Defence Budget or released on completion of specific terms of engagement with gratuity otherwise than at his own request or by way of dismissal or discharge on account of misconduct or inefficiency.
•The personnel of Territorial Army(TA) of the following categories, Viz., pension holders for continuous embodied service; persons with disability attributable to military service ; and gallantry award winners retired on or after 15-11-1986.
The personnel of the Army Postal Service(APS) who are a part of the regular Army and retired from such service,(i.e., directly from the Army Postal service itself without reversion to P&T Department) with a pension or who have been released from such service on medical grounds, attributable to military service or circumstances beyond their control and awarded medical or other disability pension are also covered within the definition of Ex-servicemen with effect from 19-07-1989.
Recruits who were boarded out/released on medical grounds and granted medical/disability pension will also be covered under the category of Ex-servicemen for all practical purposes.
The persons discharged before July 1987 under Army Rule 13(3) iii (v) for the reason “service no longer required” will not be eligible for the status of Ex-servicemen. Individuals discharged on or after July 1987 under Army Rule 13(3) iii (V) for the reason “service no longer required” will however qualify for the status of Ex-servicemen , if they are in receipt of pension.
The eligibility of the person to the status of Ex-servicemen will be governed by the definition in vogue at the time of his discharge and will not be affected by the changes in the definition subsequent to his discharge.
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DEFENCE PENSIONERS DRAWING PENSION FROM STATE BANK OF INDIA
ALL VETERAN BROTHERS RESIDING IN THE STATE OF AP MAY KINDLY NOTE THE FOLLOWING INFORMAION :-
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DEFENCE PENSIONERS DRAWING PENSION FROM STATE BANK OF INDIA ------
IN CASE, YOU FEEL YOUR REVISED PENSION W.E.F 01 JAN 2006 IS LESS, KINDLY SEND THE FOLLOWING DOCUMENTS (PHOTOCOPIES) FOR CORRECT FIXATION OF PENSION AND PAYMENT OF ARREARS :-
(a) PPO ALONG WITH CORRIGENDUM IF ANY.
(b) ACCOUNT NO AND POSTAL ADDRESS OF YOUR SBI BRANCH.
(c) COMMUTATION AMOUNT.
(d) PENSION PAID BY SBI SO FAR.
ADDRESS TO WHICH DOCUMENTS TO BE SENT:-
DIRECTOR SAINIK WELFARE
GRUHAKALPA PREMISES
BLOCK IV, 2ND FLOOR, MJ ROAD
NAMPALLY, HYDERABAD – 500001
TELE: 040 - 24736890, 24747991, 9177000036
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DEFENCE PENSIONERS DRAWING PENSION FROM STATE BANK OF INDIA ------
IN CASE, YOU FEEL YOUR REVISED PENSION W.E.F 01 JAN 2006 IS LESS, KINDLY SEND THE FOLLOWING DOCUMENTS (PHOTOCOPIES) FOR CORRECT FIXATION OF PENSION AND PAYMENT OF ARREARS :-
(a) PPO ALONG WITH CORRIGENDUM IF ANY.
(b) ACCOUNT NO AND POSTAL ADDRESS OF YOUR SBI BRANCH.
(c) COMMUTATION AMOUNT.
(d) PENSION PAID BY SBI SO FAR.
ADDRESS TO WHICH DOCUMENTS TO BE SENT:-
DIRECTOR SAINIK WELFARE
GRUHAKALPA PREMISES
BLOCK IV, 2ND FLOOR, MJ ROAD
NAMPALLY, HYDERABAD – 500001
TELE: 040 - 24736890, 24747991, 9177000036
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Monday, October 12, 2009
AN EX SNCO APPEALS TO ALL VETERANS TO DESIST FROM NEGATIVE COMMENTS IN CHAT BOX AGAINST OFFICERS
ALL VETERAN BROTHERS ARE REQUESTED TO SEE THE FOLLOWING VIEWS OF OUR VETERAN BROTHER :-
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Respected Sir,
This has reference to chat by thomasmanimala on blog.
Please note that, our ex-servicemen are writing something anti officers, respected sir, kindly note that you a great person fight for all i.e. Officers,PBORS and NC[E] also, sir, please note that all officers are not bad like wise all PBORs are not god gifted,for example, appended below please find few commanding officers i have seen in person, they were best for Airmen, and no one can challenge that.
1] Gp Capt BS Sikand, my C.O. No 5 Wing AF
2] Gp Capt CR Bose, my CO No 6 Wing AF
3] Gp Capt Talwar, my CO No 17 Wing AF
4] Gp Capt MD Lalwani my CO No 505 SU AF
Respected sir, we are ex-servicemen,. and to achieve our goals, we need support from every individual, kindly ask these persons to be decent at list while writing on blog because it is a public platform and everybody other than Ex-Servicemen also read it.
Thanks & Regards,
Ex-SGT Walawalkar JY
INDIAN AIR FORCE (VIA - E-mail)
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Respected Sir,
This has reference to chat by thomasmanimala on blog.
Please note that, our ex-servicemen are writing something anti officers, respected sir, kindly note that you a great person fight for all i.e. Officers,PBORS and NC[E] also, sir, please note that all officers are not bad like wise all PBORs are not god gifted,for example, appended below please find few commanding officers i have seen in person, they were best for Airmen, and no one can challenge that.
1] Gp Capt BS Sikand, my C.O. No 5 Wing AF
2] Gp Capt CR Bose, my CO No 6 Wing AF
3] Gp Capt Talwar, my CO No 17 Wing AF
4] Gp Capt MD Lalwani my CO No 505 SU AF
Respected sir, we are ex-servicemen,. and to achieve our goals, we need support from every individual, kindly ask these persons to be decent at list while writing on blog because it is a public platform and everybody other than Ex-Servicemen also read it.
Thanks & Regards,
Ex-SGT Walawalkar JY
INDIAN AIR FORCE (VIA - E-mail)
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LETTER TO BAPU FROM GENERATION NEXT
All veteran Brothers may go thro this article, if they wish, by an young/famous writer CHETAN BHAGAT, for an interesting reading:-
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Chetan Bhagat4 October 2009, 12:25am IST
Dear Gandhiji,
You left us 62 years ago. If you were still around, you would have been 140 years old. However, we have not forgotten you. You are on every banknote and most stamps. There are many statues of you. Prestigious roads in almost every city are named after you. Our politicians try to model themselves on you. They wear the fabric you promoted, they quote you at every instance, they've got a photograph of you in their office and some even eat and live like you. There are books, TV programmes and movies about you. Seriously you'd be impressed at how much we still adore you.
However, there are things that won't make you feel proud. The India you spent all your life making free, is far from free. True, the white guys are gone. But there are still millions of poor people. In 60 years, we are still among the poorest nations on earth. This lack of money leads to a lot of problems in healthcare, infrastructure and education. In education, for instance, many children still don't go to a good school. Those who do, don't get into good colleges. And those who go to college, don't get good jobs. We need to get rich, and fast. Not only to make more schools and colleges, but also because most Indian problems are linked to lack of money. Yet, it is considered un-Indian to think that way. The young generation, which thinks like that, is considered materialistic and greedy. The older generation takes the moral high ground - slowness in work is termed patience, non-stop discussion and no action is called careful consideration and lack of improvement in standards of living is countered with claims about the need to live with austerity. And yes, in many cases politicians who speak like this claim to be your fanboys.
The younger generation wishes you could come down for one day and clarify these points. Is progress un-Indian? Is change bad? Is a desire to see my country as rich as some other nations materialistic? Is getting things done fast impatience? If you blessed our purpose of making a developed India, the job would become so much easier.
The young generation needs you down here for something else too. We have a new battle here, just like the one you fought with the British. The enemy is not so clear like it was in your case - the white people. Our enemy is the old school of thought, or rather the people who defend the old school of thought. They do this in the name of antique Indian policies, culture and values. You could help identify this enemy more clearly. Many people who are at the helm of affairs now have served India for decades, maybe with good intentions. But obviously, they don't want to accept they screwed up. We wish they would though and we'd have a national day of shame. It won't be easy, but from there we can make a new beginning. But they won't, for they are in power. And to defend themselves and their ways, they don't mind crushing the aspirations, ideas and talent of an entire generation.
Yes, there is a lot of talk of India being a young nation and youth power. However, youth power is the biggest myth going around India right now. Of course, youth has spending power - we can buy enough SIM cards, sneakers and fizzy drinks to keep many MNCs in business. But we do not have the power to change things. Can the youth get a new college opened? Can the youth ask the government to give tax incentives to MNCs to relocate jobs to smaller towns? No way. We are wooed, used but seldom heard. If you came down, you could unite us. You used religious festivals as social events and propagated your cause. You understood that people need entertainment to bind them. Perhaps, we could integrate colleges in the same way, link all colleges - maybe for their annual festivals - and the message of change could be channelled through them. We have amazing technology such as the Internet now.
You would use it so well. If the youth unites, there could actually be youth power.
With our purpose blessed, enemy identified and youth united - we could take the first steps towards the new Indian revolution. After all, China had one, and only after that, did they get on the path of true progress.
But if it is not feasible for you to come back, we'll have to try to bring about change ourselves. If we can be inspired to do that, we can say we have not forgotten you and understand the meaning of your birthday. We hope you had a good one up there!
Lots of love,
the younger generation
(also known as Youngistan, Gen X, Gen Next and Gen Y depending on the brand you're talking about)
The writer is a bestselling author
(SOURCE ; TIMES OF INDIA 04.10.2009)
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Chetan Bhagat4 October 2009, 12:25am IST
Dear Gandhiji,
You left us 62 years ago. If you were still around, you would have been 140 years old. However, we have not forgotten you. You are on every banknote and most stamps. There are many statues of you. Prestigious roads in almost every city are named after you. Our politicians try to model themselves on you. They wear the fabric you promoted, they quote you at every instance, they've got a photograph of you in their office and some even eat and live like you. There are books, TV programmes and movies about you. Seriously you'd be impressed at how much we still adore you.
However, there are things that won't make you feel proud. The India you spent all your life making free, is far from free. True, the white guys are gone. But there are still millions of poor people. In 60 years, we are still among the poorest nations on earth. This lack of money leads to a lot of problems in healthcare, infrastructure and education. In education, for instance, many children still don't go to a good school. Those who do, don't get into good colleges. And those who go to college, don't get good jobs. We need to get rich, and fast. Not only to make more schools and colleges, but also because most Indian problems are linked to lack of money. Yet, it is considered un-Indian to think that way. The young generation, which thinks like that, is considered materialistic and greedy. The older generation takes the moral high ground - slowness in work is termed patience, non-stop discussion and no action is called careful consideration and lack of improvement in standards of living is countered with claims about the need to live with austerity. And yes, in many cases politicians who speak like this claim to be your fanboys.
The younger generation wishes you could come down for one day and clarify these points. Is progress un-Indian? Is change bad? Is a desire to see my country as rich as some other nations materialistic? Is getting things done fast impatience? If you blessed our purpose of making a developed India, the job would become so much easier.
The young generation needs you down here for something else too. We have a new battle here, just like the one you fought with the British. The enemy is not so clear like it was in your case - the white people. Our enemy is the old school of thought, or rather the people who defend the old school of thought. They do this in the name of antique Indian policies, culture and values. You could help identify this enemy more clearly. Many people who are at the helm of affairs now have served India for decades, maybe with good intentions. But obviously, they don't want to accept they screwed up. We wish they would though and we'd have a national day of shame. It won't be easy, but from there we can make a new beginning. But they won't, for they are in power. And to defend themselves and their ways, they don't mind crushing the aspirations, ideas and talent of an entire generation.
Yes, there is a lot of talk of India being a young nation and youth power. However, youth power is the biggest myth going around India right now. Of course, youth has spending power - we can buy enough SIM cards, sneakers and fizzy drinks to keep many MNCs in business. But we do not have the power to change things. Can the youth get a new college opened? Can the youth ask the government to give tax incentives to MNCs to relocate jobs to smaller towns? No way. We are wooed, used but seldom heard. If you came down, you could unite us. You used religious festivals as social events and propagated your cause. You understood that people need entertainment to bind them. Perhaps, we could integrate colleges in the same way, link all colleges - maybe for their annual festivals - and the message of change could be channelled through them. We have amazing technology such as the Internet now.
You would use it so well. If the youth unites, there could actually be youth power.
With our purpose blessed, enemy identified and youth united - we could take the first steps towards the new Indian revolution. After all, China had one, and only after that, did they get on the path of true progress.
But if it is not feasible for you to come back, we'll have to try to bring about change ourselves. If we can be inspired to do that, we can say we have not forgotten you and understand the meaning of your birthday. We hope you had a good one up there!
Lots of love,
the younger generation
(also known as Youngistan, Gen X, Gen Next and Gen Y depending on the brand you're talking about)
The writer is a bestselling author
(SOURCE ; TIMES OF INDIA 04.10.2009)
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Monday, October 5, 2009
IN LIGHTER VEIN - WE ARE LIKE THIS ONLY, EASY TO IDENTIFY
ALL VETERAN BROTHERS,.... HERE....SOME MORE.....FOR FUN''''''
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We are like this only so true, so very true........ .
1. Everything you eat is savored in garlic, onion and tomatoes.
2.. You try and reuse gift wrappers, gift boxes, and of course aluminum foil.
3. You are always standing next to the two largest size suitcases at the Airport.
4. You arrive one or two hours late to a party - and think it's normal.
5. You peel the stamps off letters that the Postal Service missed to stamp.
6. You recycle Wedding Gifts, Birthday Gifts and Anniversary Gifts.
7. You name your children in rhythms (example, Sita & Gita, Ram & Shyam, Kamini & Shamini..)
8. All your children have pet names, which sound nowhere, close to their real names.
9. You take Indian snacks anywhere it says 'No Food Allowed.'
10. You talk for an hour at the front door when leaving someone's house.
11. You load up the family car with as many people as possible.
12. HIGH PRIORITY ***** You use plastic to cover anything
new in your house whether it's the remote control, VCR, carpet
or new couch. *****
13. Your parents tell you not to care what your friends think,
but they won't let you do certain things because of what the
other 'Uncles and Aunties' will think.
14. You buy and display crockery, which is never used,
as it is for special occasions, which never happen.
15. You have a vinyl tablecloth on your kitchen table.
16.. You use grocery bags to hold garbage.
17. You keep leftover food in your fridge in as many numbers
of bowls as possible.
18. Your kitchen shelf is full of jars, varieties of bowls and
plastic utensils (got free with purchase of other stuff)
19. You carry a stash of your own food whenever you
travel (and travel means any car ride longer than 15 minutes).
20. You own a rice cooker or a pressure cooker.
21. You fight over who pays the dinner bill.
22. You live with your parents and you are
40 years old. (And they prefer it that way).
23. You don't use measuring cups when cooking.
24. You never learnt how to stand in a queue.
25. You can only travel if there are 5 persons
at least to see you off or receive you whether
you are traveling by bus, train or plane.
26. If she is NOT your daughter, you always take
interest in knowing whose daughter has run with
whose son and feel proud to spread it at the velocity
of more than the speed of light.
27. You only make long distance calls after 11p.m.
28. If you don't live at home, when your parents call,
they ask if you've eaten, even if it's midnight
29. You call an older person you never met
before Uncle or Aunty.
30. When your parents meet strangers and talk for a few
minutes, you discover you're talking to a distant cousin..
31. Your parents don't realize phone connections to
foreign countries have improved in the last two decades,
and still scream at the top of their lungs when making
foreign calls.
32. You have bed sheets on your sofas so as to
keep them from getting dirty.
33. Its embarrassing if you're wedding has less than 600 people.
34. All your Tupperware is stained with food color.
35. You have drinking glasses made of steel.
36. You have mastered the art of bargaining in shopping.
37. You have really enjoyed reading this mail -
forward it to as many Indians as possible.
..AND....I STILL LOVE TO BE AN INDIAN. JAI HO.
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We are like this only so true, so very true........ .
1. Everything you eat is savored in garlic, onion and tomatoes.
2.. You try and reuse gift wrappers, gift boxes, and of course aluminum foil.
3. You are always standing next to the two largest size suitcases at the Airport.
4. You arrive one or two hours late to a party - and think it's normal.
5. You peel the stamps off letters that the Postal Service missed to stamp.
6. You recycle Wedding Gifts, Birthday Gifts and Anniversary Gifts.
7. You name your children in rhythms (example, Sita & Gita, Ram & Shyam, Kamini & Shamini..)
8. All your children have pet names, which sound nowhere, close to their real names.
9. You take Indian snacks anywhere it says 'No Food Allowed.'
10. You talk for an hour at the front door when leaving someone's house.
11. You load up the family car with as many people as possible.
12. HIGH PRIORITY ***** You use plastic to cover anything
new in your house whether it's the remote control, VCR, carpet
or new couch. *****
13. Your parents tell you not to care what your friends think,
but they won't let you do certain things because of what the
other 'Uncles and Aunties' will think.
14. You buy and display crockery, which is never used,
as it is for special occasions, which never happen.
15. You have a vinyl tablecloth on your kitchen table.
16.. You use grocery bags to hold garbage.
17. You keep leftover food in your fridge in as many numbers
of bowls as possible.
18. Your kitchen shelf is full of jars, varieties of bowls and
plastic utensils (got free with purchase of other stuff)
19. You carry a stash of your own food whenever you
travel (and travel means any car ride longer than 15 minutes).
20. You own a rice cooker or a pressure cooker.
21. You fight over who pays the dinner bill.
22. You live with your parents and you are
40 years old. (And they prefer it that way).
23. You don't use measuring cups when cooking.
24. You never learnt how to stand in a queue.
25. You can only travel if there are 5 persons
at least to see you off or receive you whether
you are traveling by bus, train or plane.
26. If she is NOT your daughter, you always take
interest in knowing whose daughter has run with
whose son and feel proud to spread it at the velocity
of more than the speed of light.
27. You only make long distance calls after 11p.m.
28. If you don't live at home, when your parents call,
they ask if you've eaten, even if it's midnight
29. You call an older person you never met
before Uncle or Aunty.
30. When your parents meet strangers and talk for a few
minutes, you discover you're talking to a distant cousin..
31. Your parents don't realize phone connections to
foreign countries have improved in the last two decades,
and still scream at the top of their lungs when making
foreign calls.
32. You have bed sheets on your sofas so as to
keep them from getting dirty.
33. Its embarrassing if you're wedding has less than 600 people.
34. All your Tupperware is stained with food color.
35. You have drinking glasses made of steel.
36. You have mastered the art of bargaining in shopping.
37. You have really enjoyed reading this mail -
forward it to as many Indians as possible.
..AND....I STILL LOVE TO BE AN INDIAN. JAI HO.
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LIGHTER SIDE ; SOME CLEVER BUSINESS SIGNS
1. All Veteran Brothers, now some lighter side, for your view:-
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1) At an Optometrist's office:
"If you don't see what you're looking for, you've come to the right place."
2) In a Restaurant window:
"Don't stand there hungry. Come on in and get fed-up."
3) In a Podiatrist's office:
"Time wounds all heels."
4) On a Plumber's Shop:
"We repair what your husband fixed."
5) On the trucks of a plumbing company:
"Don't sleep with a drip. Call us."
6) Pizza Shop Slogan:
"Seven days without pizza makes one weak."
7) At a Tyre Shop:
"Invite us to your next blowout."
8) On a Plastic Surgeon's Office door:
"Hello. Can we pick your nose?"
9) At a Towing company:
"We don't charge an arm and a leg. We want tows."
10) On an Electrician's truck:
"Let us remove your shorts."
11) In a Nonsmoking Area:
"If we see smoke, we will assume you are on fire and put you out."
12) On a Septic Tank Truck sign:
"We're No.1 in the No.2 business."
13) On a Fence:
"Salesmen welcome! Dog food is expensive."
14) At a Car Dealership:
"The best way to get back on your feet -- miss a car payment."
15) Outside a Muffler Shop:
"No appointment necessary. We hear you coming."
16) At the Electric Company:
"We would be delighted if you send in your payment.
However, if you don't, you will be de-Lighted."
17) In the front yard of a Funeral Home:
"Please drive carefully. We will wait"
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(Source - Posted by Giant Slayer )
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1) At an Optometrist's office:
"If you don't see what you're looking for, you've come to the right place."
2) In a Restaurant window:
"Don't stand there hungry. Come on in and get fed-up."
3) In a Podiatrist's office:
"Time wounds all heels."
4) On a Plumber's Shop:
"We repair what your husband fixed."
5) On the trucks of a plumbing company:
"Don't sleep with a drip. Call us."
6) Pizza Shop Slogan:
"Seven days without pizza makes one weak."
7) At a Tyre Shop:
"Invite us to your next blowout."
8) On a Plastic Surgeon's Office door:
"Hello. Can we pick your nose?"
9) At a Towing company:
"We don't charge an arm and a leg. We want tows."
10) On an Electrician's truck:
"Let us remove your shorts."
11) In a Nonsmoking Area:
"If we see smoke, we will assume you are on fire and put you out."
12) On a Septic Tank Truck sign:
"We're No.1 in the No.2 business."
13) On a Fence:
"Salesmen welcome! Dog food is expensive."
14) At a Car Dealership:
"The best way to get back on your feet -- miss a car payment."
15) Outside a Muffler Shop:
"No appointment necessary. We hear you coming."
16) At the Electric Company:
"We would be delighted if you send in your payment.
However, if you don't, you will be de-Lighted."
17) In the front yard of a Funeral Home:
"Please drive carefully. We will wait"
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(Source - Posted by Giant Slayer )
DEFENDING THE HONOUR OF THE FORCES - THE BRITISH WAY
1. The following is posted for general information of all Veteran brothers:-
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"Army chief quits suddenly as protests over troops mount"
An army major general who was extremely critical of the government's treatment of British troops in Afghanistan has suddenly resigned, the Ministry of Defence confirmed.
Andrew Mackay, who was recently promoted general officer commanding of the army in Scotland, the north of England, and Northern Ireland, is the latest high-flying senior army officer to quit early amid protests at the treatment of the forces.
As the brigadier commanding British troops in southern Afghanistan in 2007 and 2008, he said he had felt like a student – getting to grips with Afghanistan, counter-insurgency and managing a large organisation. He said he was struck by the lack of clear direction from above. There was a sense of "making it up as we go along", he said.
Mackay signed a "ground truth" memo, sent to London, which listed serious problems with his soldiers' equipment. It noted that many of the Household Cavalry's elderly Scimitar reconnaissance tanks had defective engines. Tanks labelled "working" could not get into reverse gear without restarting the engine, a limitation "not helpful in combat", the memo said.
A quarter of the Mastiff armoured vehicles were out of action for weeks because of suspension problems, and many of the new Vector armoured vehicles in Helmand were not being used because "the wheels just kept falling off". Heavy machine guns and reinforced Land Rovers were also in short supply, the memo added.
The memo was disclosed earlier this year in the book Operation Snakebite, by Stephen Grey, a journalist who witnessed the recapture of the town of Musa Qaleh from the Taliban, the pivotal operation of Mackay's tour for which he was awarded the CBE.
Other former British commanders in Afghanistan to have resigned prematurely include brigadier Ed Butler, who was commander in southern Afghanistan in 2006 when the then defence secretary John Reid expressed the hope that British troops would not fire a shot in anger.
Butler's decision to quit in 2008 prompted speculation that he was leaving because of frustration at the failure to provide adequate funding for the armed forces. He had spoken of the "well-known constraints and restraints" within which his soldiers were required to operate in combat operations. He resigned soon after Lt Col Stuart Tootal, who left in disgust over what he called the "appalling" and "shoddy" treatment of troops."
( Source: The Guardian, UK)
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Girls march topless in UK to support British soldiers
A dozen women paraded through Manchester topless to show their support for British troops fighting abroad. They stripped off to persuade onlookers and members of the public to dig deep and donate to plastic buckets to raise cash for British Forces. The group campaigns to get better equipment for British Forces.
(SOURCE : The Times of India- (TIMES GLOBAL), Oct 01,2009.
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"Army chief quits suddenly as protests over troops mount"
An army major general who was extremely critical of the government's treatment of British troops in Afghanistan has suddenly resigned, the Ministry of Defence confirmed.
Andrew Mackay, who was recently promoted general officer commanding of the army in Scotland, the north of England, and Northern Ireland, is the latest high-flying senior army officer to quit early amid protests at the treatment of the forces.
As the brigadier commanding British troops in southern Afghanistan in 2007 and 2008, he said he had felt like a student – getting to grips with Afghanistan, counter-insurgency and managing a large organisation. He said he was struck by the lack of clear direction from above. There was a sense of "making it up as we go along", he said.
Mackay signed a "ground truth" memo, sent to London, which listed serious problems with his soldiers' equipment. It noted that many of the Household Cavalry's elderly Scimitar reconnaissance tanks had defective engines. Tanks labelled "working" could not get into reverse gear without restarting the engine, a limitation "not helpful in combat", the memo said.
A quarter of the Mastiff armoured vehicles were out of action for weeks because of suspension problems, and many of the new Vector armoured vehicles in Helmand were not being used because "the wheels just kept falling off". Heavy machine guns and reinforced Land Rovers were also in short supply, the memo added.
The memo was disclosed earlier this year in the book Operation Snakebite, by Stephen Grey, a journalist who witnessed the recapture of the town of Musa Qaleh from the Taliban, the pivotal operation of Mackay's tour for which he was awarded the CBE.
Other former British commanders in Afghanistan to have resigned prematurely include brigadier Ed Butler, who was commander in southern Afghanistan in 2006 when the then defence secretary John Reid expressed the hope that British troops would not fire a shot in anger.
Butler's decision to quit in 2008 prompted speculation that he was leaving because of frustration at the failure to provide adequate funding for the armed forces. He had spoken of the "well-known constraints and restraints" within which his soldiers were required to operate in combat operations. He resigned soon after Lt Col Stuart Tootal, who left in disgust over what he called the "appalling" and "shoddy" treatment of troops."
( Source: The Guardian, UK)
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Girls march topless in UK to support British soldiers
A dozen women paraded through Manchester topless to show their support for British troops fighting abroad. They stripped off to persuade onlookers and members of the public to dig deep and donate to plastic buckets to raise cash for British Forces. The group campaigns to get better equipment for British Forces.
(SOURCE : The Times of India- (TIMES GLOBAL), Oct 01,2009.
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LINK FROM PJS CHATWAL SPEAKS.... CHANGE OF MINDSET...
1. THE FOLLOWING POST IS PASTED FOR THE INFORMATION OF ALL VETERAN BROTHERS:-
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There is need of change of mind-set among the Indian Defence Officers inheriting the Britsh Legacy
The Indian veterans have probably used their ultimate weapon of returning the medals far too early in their movement..... by Vice Admiral Harinder singh
Dear Members,An article of topical interest by a retired naval officer A Bhardwaj is forwarded for your info pl.RegardsLEADERFrom “Dewey Canyon III” to Action at Jantar MantraAtul Bharadwaj font-sizeThe Indian veterans need to identify with the civil society. They have probably used their ultimate weapon of returning the medals far too early in their movementIn 1971, many US War veterans had joined the national mainstream to protest against the invasion of Vietnam and Laos. The peaceful anti-war protest by the veterans in Washington, called “Operation Dewey Canyon III” began on 19 April 1971. On April 23, more than 800 veterans, one by one, tossed their medals, ribbons, discharge papers and other war mementos on the steps of the Capitol Hill, rejecting the Vietnam war and the significance of those awards. The protest shook the US government and received wide media coverage.Recently, the Indian veterans decided to do something similar. After protesting for more than two months at Jantar Mantar in Delhi and various other locations across the country, they finally decided to return their medals to the government. As many as 5000 medals were handed back. Undoubtedly, it is shameful on the part of the government and the administrators to be utterly disdainful of the soldiers’ plight. The veteran’s demands are plain and simple. All they are asking for is onerank one-pension. They are hardly demanding the moon, especially when one sees that “secretaries to the government, judges, MPs and MLAs have been granted one-rank onepension. That covers the full executive, legislature and top babus,” says Karan Thapar, a noted journalist. But almost all political parties have turned a blind eye to this long pending demand of the veterans.However, despite the use of this Bramha-Astra (returning medals), the veterans involved in the protest have hardly been able to awaken the national consciousness and shake people (leave alone the government) out of deep slumber, in the same manner that the US veterans had done in 1971. The question is why is this so? Many involved in the protest say that the movement is still in its infancy-they are not getting the support they need from the serving community. One fully agrees with the protesting veterans when they blame the politicians and the bureaucrats for their double speak. But what needs to be probed is why is the general public not rising up to show solidarity with the veterans? And why is the media so lukewarm owards the protestors? The public sees the entire movement to be based on a very narrow agenda of pay hike, something which they themselves have to grapple with in their daily professional life. Therefore, neither the media nor the public sees any novelty in the veteran’s movement. The nation sees the military man to be a giver, somebody who willingly sacrifices his life for providing security or “public good” for the nation. Contrast this with the emotions evoked in 1971 by the US veterans returning the medals. The American public saw them as a part of the nation, someone who could be trusted to walk alongside them o protect the nation from the clutches of warmongers. It was a national cause in which veterans participated, therefore, it was natural for the public to feel aggrieved and the White House to rise up to take some concrete measures to ameliorate the deteriorating confidence in the State. But the Indian veterans’ actions smack of parochialism. If only, they could align themselves more with people’s concerns. If only they could make efforts towards getting closer to the society at large, perhaps they would not have to rue the fact that the politicians turn a deaf ear to their valid demands. Currently, the Indian armed forces community is neither fully a part of the government’s decision making apparatus nor is it fully a part of civil society. Conscious effort will have to be made to abolish terms like “bloody civilians” from military parlance. It is only then that the Indian public will respond in the same manner as the American public responds to their military (In the US Presidential elections, candidates’ often flaunt their military service to seek the approval of the electorate). It is to be understood by the veterans that bureaucrats will never move the files in their favour and the politicians will continue to pussyfoot. It is only the civil society, which can put pressure on the government. And for the civil society to take up cudgels on behalf of the veterans, the veterans will have to show solidarity whenever the civil society comes out on the streets for a just national cause. Now some may argue that this could lead to greater militarism of the society or vice versa the military may get more civilianised in the long run. But the fact is that the civil-military amalgamation never leads to erosion of democratic ethos. In fact such interactions only help to make the country stronger. On the contrary, when the military tries to reach closer to the seat of power, the threat to democracy gets exacerbated and becomes dangerous. It is high time that the Indian military began understanding that the ambit of civil-military relationship extends beyond the narrow confines of flag ranks equations vis-a-vis their counterparts in the civil services.Atul Bhardwaj Editor Salute is a retired Naval officer. He can be contacted at atul.salute@gmail.com Vice Admiral Harinder SinghC 26, Sector 23, Noida 201301Tel 0120-2412412, 9811668776
Posted by Indian ExServicemen Movement at 1:59 AM
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Veteran Prabhjot Singh Chhatwal said...
Dear Veterans (Vice Adm.) Harinder Singh and Atul Bhardwaj,Regards.Sir(s),How can you expect that the Indian Defence Officers, inheriting the British mind-set, will delete the term "bloody civilians" from their military parlance when they have not, yet, learnt to accord proper respect to their own subordinate ranks which they deserve due to their age, education, official designation on re-employment and their status in civil society? Even if a subordinate person retires as Judge,IAS,PCS. Asstt. Labour Commissioner, Asstt. Secretary, Deputy Director from a Central or State Deptt. these officers will wish him to stand with the rank and file if they come to know about his rank in Defence. How can such persons expect to have respect and co-operation from their own veteran brethren, leave aside the civilians? I hope, I am not misunderstood for having touched the ailing nerve. Veteran Prabhjot Singh Chhatwal PLS Retd.
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There is need of change of mind-set among the Indian Defence Officers inheriting the Britsh Legacy
The Indian veterans have probably used their ultimate weapon of returning the medals far too early in their movement..... by Vice Admiral Harinder singh
Dear Members,An article of topical interest by a retired naval officer A Bhardwaj is forwarded for your info pl.RegardsLEADERFrom “Dewey Canyon III” to Action at Jantar MantraAtul Bharadwaj font-sizeThe Indian veterans need to identify with the civil society. They have probably used their ultimate weapon of returning the medals far too early in their movementIn 1971, many US War veterans had joined the national mainstream to protest against the invasion of Vietnam and Laos. The peaceful anti-war protest by the veterans in Washington, called “Operation Dewey Canyon III” began on 19 April 1971. On April 23, more than 800 veterans, one by one, tossed their medals, ribbons, discharge papers and other war mementos on the steps of the Capitol Hill, rejecting the Vietnam war and the significance of those awards. The protest shook the US government and received wide media coverage.Recently, the Indian veterans decided to do something similar. After protesting for more than two months at Jantar Mantar in Delhi and various other locations across the country, they finally decided to return their medals to the government. As many as 5000 medals were handed back. Undoubtedly, it is shameful on the part of the government and the administrators to be utterly disdainful of the soldiers’ plight. The veteran’s demands are plain and simple. All they are asking for is onerank one-pension. They are hardly demanding the moon, especially when one sees that “secretaries to the government, judges, MPs and MLAs have been granted one-rank onepension. That covers the full executive, legislature and top babus,” says Karan Thapar, a noted journalist. But almost all political parties have turned a blind eye to this long pending demand of the veterans.However, despite the use of this Bramha-Astra (returning medals), the veterans involved in the protest have hardly been able to awaken the national consciousness and shake people (leave alone the government) out of deep slumber, in the same manner that the US veterans had done in 1971. The question is why is this so? Many involved in the protest say that the movement is still in its infancy-they are not getting the support they need from the serving community. One fully agrees with the protesting veterans when they blame the politicians and the bureaucrats for their double speak. But what needs to be probed is why is the general public not rising up to show solidarity with the veterans? And why is the media so lukewarm owards the protestors? The public sees the entire movement to be based on a very narrow agenda of pay hike, something which they themselves have to grapple with in their daily professional life. Therefore, neither the media nor the public sees any novelty in the veteran’s movement. The nation sees the military man to be a giver, somebody who willingly sacrifices his life for providing security or “public good” for the nation. Contrast this with the emotions evoked in 1971 by the US veterans returning the medals. The American public saw them as a part of the nation, someone who could be trusted to walk alongside them o protect the nation from the clutches of warmongers. It was a national cause in which veterans participated, therefore, it was natural for the public to feel aggrieved and the White House to rise up to take some concrete measures to ameliorate the deteriorating confidence in the State. But the Indian veterans’ actions smack of parochialism. If only, they could align themselves more with people’s concerns. If only they could make efforts towards getting closer to the society at large, perhaps they would not have to rue the fact that the politicians turn a deaf ear to their valid demands. Currently, the Indian armed forces community is neither fully a part of the government’s decision making apparatus nor is it fully a part of civil society. Conscious effort will have to be made to abolish terms like “bloody civilians” from military parlance. It is only then that the Indian public will respond in the same manner as the American public responds to their military (In the US Presidential elections, candidates’ often flaunt their military service to seek the approval of the electorate). It is to be understood by the veterans that bureaucrats will never move the files in their favour and the politicians will continue to pussyfoot. It is only the civil society, which can put pressure on the government. And for the civil society to take up cudgels on behalf of the veterans, the veterans will have to show solidarity whenever the civil society comes out on the streets for a just national cause. Now some may argue that this could lead to greater militarism of the society or vice versa the military may get more civilianised in the long run. But the fact is that the civil-military amalgamation never leads to erosion of democratic ethos. In fact such interactions only help to make the country stronger. On the contrary, when the military tries to reach closer to the seat of power, the threat to democracy gets exacerbated and becomes dangerous. It is high time that the Indian military began understanding that the ambit of civil-military relationship extends beyond the narrow confines of flag ranks equations vis-a-vis their counterparts in the civil services.Atul Bhardwaj Editor Salute is a retired Naval officer. He can be contacted at atul.salute@gmail.com Vice Admiral Harinder SinghC 26, Sector 23, Noida 201301Tel 0120-2412412, 9811668776
Posted by Indian ExServicemen Movement at 1:59 AM
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Veteran Prabhjot Singh Chhatwal said...
Dear Veterans (Vice Adm.) Harinder Singh and Atul Bhardwaj,Regards.Sir(s),How can you expect that the Indian Defence Officers, inheriting the British mind-set, will delete the term "bloody civilians" from their military parlance when they have not, yet, learnt to accord proper respect to their own subordinate ranks which they deserve due to their age, education, official designation on re-employment and their status in civil society? Even if a subordinate person retires as Judge,IAS,PCS. Asstt. Labour Commissioner, Asstt. Secretary, Deputy Director from a Central or State Deptt. these officers will wish him to stand with the rank and file if they come to know about his rank in Defence. How can such persons expect to have respect and co-operation from their own veteran brethren, leave aside the civilians? I hope, I am not misunderstood for having touched the ailing nerve. Veteran Prabhjot Singh Chhatwal PLS Retd.
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FLASH! FLASH!! FLASH!!! - GOOD NEWS TO ALL VETERANS FROM VET.PRABHJOT SINGH, PRESIDENT IESL PANJAB UNIT
ALL VETERAN BROTHERS ARE HEREBY INFORMED THE FOLLOWING GOOD NEWS:-
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Dear Veteran Gavini,
Regards. Good News for Underprivileged Veterans.One Rank One Pension (Improvrd pension for Underprivileged Veterans ) as was announced in Budget and then Paliament and finally By Prime Minister on 15-08-2009 IS BEING PROCESSED BY THE FINANCE MINISTRY AND ORDERS LIKELY TO BE ISSUED SOON.
However. this organization has faxed the reminder to Defence Minister with copy to Director Pension, Deptt.of Sainik Welfare, Govt of India. Copy given below which you may paste on your blog for the information of Veterans, please.
Veteran Prabhjot Singh Chhatwal PLS Retd.
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IESL/13/2009 Dt. 5 Oct.2009
To : Sh. A.K.Antony,
Minister for Defence ,
Govt of India,
South Block, Sena Bhawan,
New Delhi-110 011.
Sub: Post –Sixth CPC Demands of Veterans.
Respected Sir,
The veterans, all over India, were, in fact, highly elated on your announcement in regard to the payment of all arrears, in respect of sixth CPC to Veterans(ex-servicemen) before Diwali.
This organization takes liberty to remind, your good-self, that the orders regarding your Government's much publicized announcement, One Rank One Pension for PBORs (Veterans below the Commissioned Ranks) has not been issued yet. As such, how can they expect their arrears of One Rank One Pension before Diwali?
Is it a clerical delay or otherwise ? But, Sir, it will not be out of place mention that if the same is delayed, credit for doing good things will be taken by your adversaries. The Veterans are thinking to celebrate BLACK DIWALI if they are not given One Rank One Pension before Diwali.
Now it is up to your what it wants to do.
But we, on our part, would wish to remind you to do the needful at the earliest and garner the well wishes from the veterans for your government.
With a hope for an early action,
Sd/-
( Veteran Prabhjot Singh Chhatwal PLS Retd.)
Copy to; S.Harbans Singh ,Director, Pesion, Deptt. of
SainikWelfare, Ministry of Defence.Govt
of India, Sena Bhawan, New Delhi for
information, please.
Sd/-
( Veteran Prabhjot Singh Chhatwal PLS Retd.)
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Dear Veteran Gavini,
Regards. Good News for Underprivileged Veterans.One Rank One Pension (Improvrd pension for Underprivileged Veterans ) as was announced in Budget and then Paliament and finally By Prime Minister on 15-08-2009 IS BEING PROCESSED BY THE FINANCE MINISTRY AND ORDERS LIKELY TO BE ISSUED SOON.
However. this organization has faxed the reminder to Defence Minister with copy to Director Pension, Deptt.of Sainik Welfare, Govt of India. Copy given below which you may paste on your blog for the information of Veterans, please.
Veteran Prabhjot Singh Chhatwal PLS Retd.
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IESL/13/2009 Dt. 5 Oct.2009
To : Sh. A.K.Antony,
Minister for Defence ,
Govt of India,
South Block, Sena Bhawan,
New Delhi-110 011.
Sub: Post –Sixth CPC Demands of Veterans.
Respected Sir,
The veterans, all over India, were, in fact, highly elated on your announcement in regard to the payment of all arrears, in respect of sixth CPC to Veterans(ex-servicemen) before Diwali.
This organization takes liberty to remind, your good-self, that the orders regarding your Government's much publicized announcement, One Rank One Pension for PBORs (Veterans below the Commissioned Ranks) has not been issued yet. As such, how can they expect their arrears of One Rank One Pension before Diwali?
Is it a clerical delay or otherwise ? But, Sir, it will not be out of place mention that if the same is delayed, credit for doing good things will be taken by your adversaries. The Veterans are thinking to celebrate BLACK DIWALI if they are not given One Rank One Pension before Diwali.
Now it is up to your what it wants to do.
But we, on our part, would wish to remind you to do the needful at the earliest and garner the well wishes from the veterans for your government.
With a hope for an early action,
Sd/-
( Veteran Prabhjot Singh Chhatwal PLS Retd.)
Copy to; S.Harbans Singh ,Director, Pesion, Deptt. of
SainikWelfare, Ministry of Defence.Govt
of India, Sena Bhawan, New Delhi for
information, please.
Sd/-
( Veteran Prabhjot Singh Chhatwal PLS Retd.)
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Sunday, October 4, 2009
URGENT MODIFICATION/AMENDMENT REQUESTED/NEEDED : TO AFSI 1/S/08
In the interest of dignity/status attached to ARMED FORCES, and keeing in view the overall well-being and welfare of troops and their families, the following modifications,amendments are suggested / requested to be carried out /effected to the AFSI 01/S/2008, urgently:-
Heading: - PBOR be replaced with "AIRMEN OR OTHER RANKS" (ACs/NCOs/WOs/HON COs RANKS)
Definitions, Para 3:-
(a) PBOR term may be replaced with "AIRMEN OR OTHER RANKS"(ACs/NCOs/WOs/HON COs RANKs), AS the same denotes all ranks OF ACs TO HONY COMM OFFR RANKS including Class IV Civilian Staff and Nc(E), BELOW OFFICER RANKS, which is not proper by any AF standards. The Class IV and NCs(E) form a different class by themselves. Thus clubbing them all into one class gives wrong signals,
such as, ALL OF THEM ARE EITHER GROUP 'D' OR GROUP 'B'. Obviously,PBOR means only there are (1)OFFICERS CLASS and (2)BELOW OFFICERS CLASS.
(h) MSP :- The fixed rates of Rs.6000/-&2000/- may be DISPENSED WITH, as the same reasoning could be deduced as stated at (a) above.
MSP MAY BE FIXED AT A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE TO THE BASIC PAY OF ALL AIRMEN, AS THEIR SERVICES ARE BATTLE PRONE. (The High Level Empowered Committee headed by the Then RM Shri Sharad Pawar opined that the AF Personnel's services are distinct and a SPECIAL DISPENSATION IS NEEDED (even for their pensions). Therefore, it would be just to fix MSP
(1) PREFERABLY 50% OF BASIC PAY OF AIRMEN/OTHER RANKS (DOUBLE THE RATE OF NER ALLOWANE @25% to the basic pay GIVEN TO CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES(WHOSE SERVICES ARE NOT BATTLE PRONE), OR
(2) The Same Rates given to the MNS officers (whose services are not BATTLE PRONE).
( j) GCB pay existed for long. Should find a distinct place.
Para 5(C) MSP: Same reasoning as stated at (h) above.
Para 13. ENTRY LEVEL SCALES.
ALL SCALES BE RAISED BY ONE STEP ABOVE.
THAT IS STARTING WITH A RECRUIT'S GRADE PAY AT Rs.1900/-, AC - 2000/, LAC-2400/ AND CPL-2800/- IN PB-1.
SGTS BE MOVED UPTO PB-2, GP 4200/- AND SGTS (TECH WITH DIP AND EDN INST)WITH BE MOVED TO 4600/- GRADE PAY, JWO TO 4800/- WO TO 5400/ IN PB-2 AND MOVE MWO AND HON COS TO PB-3.
PARA 14. PROMOTION:-
The present dispensation of 3% increase of pay on promotion is unjustified. This is given for annual increment. Annual increment and Promotion are TWO different entities. Hence at least a 10% increase in existing pay is justifiable on account of hard earned promotions/ACP/DACPs.
Para 15. ACP : In the present form it is detrimental to the interests of airmen. May be formulated on the lines of orders issued in respect of civilian employees.
APPENDIX "A"
The present Scale of pay of JWO X Group- 5530-7780 appear to be erroneously printed.
This may be corrected to 5770-8290.
The pay scales for SGT (Dip) and Edn Inst are not mentioned. May be included now.
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Heading: - PBOR be replaced with "AIRMEN OR OTHER RANKS" (ACs/NCOs/WOs/HON COs RANKS)
Definitions, Para 3:-
(a) PBOR term may be replaced with "AIRMEN OR OTHER RANKS"(ACs/NCOs/WOs/HON COs RANKs), AS the same denotes all ranks OF ACs TO HONY COMM OFFR RANKS including Class IV Civilian Staff and Nc(E), BELOW OFFICER RANKS, which is not proper by any AF standards. The Class IV and NCs(E) form a different class by themselves. Thus clubbing them all into one class gives wrong signals,
such as, ALL OF THEM ARE EITHER GROUP 'D' OR GROUP 'B'. Obviously,PBOR means only there are (1)OFFICERS CLASS and (2)BELOW OFFICERS CLASS.
(h) MSP :- The fixed rates of Rs.6000/-&2000/- may be DISPENSED WITH, as the same reasoning could be deduced as stated at (a) above.
MSP MAY BE FIXED AT A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE TO THE BASIC PAY OF ALL AIRMEN, AS THEIR SERVICES ARE BATTLE PRONE. (The High Level Empowered Committee headed by the Then RM Shri Sharad Pawar opined that the AF Personnel's services are distinct and a SPECIAL DISPENSATION IS NEEDED (even for their pensions). Therefore, it would be just to fix MSP
(1) PREFERABLY 50% OF BASIC PAY OF AIRMEN/OTHER RANKS (DOUBLE THE RATE OF NER ALLOWANE @25% to the basic pay GIVEN TO CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES(WHOSE SERVICES ARE NOT BATTLE PRONE), OR
(2) The Same Rates given to the MNS officers (whose services are not BATTLE PRONE).
( j) GCB pay existed for long. Should find a distinct place.
Para 5(C) MSP: Same reasoning as stated at (h) above.
Para 13. ENTRY LEVEL SCALES.
ALL SCALES BE RAISED BY ONE STEP ABOVE.
THAT IS STARTING WITH A RECRUIT'S GRADE PAY AT Rs.1900/-, AC - 2000/, LAC-2400/ AND CPL-2800/- IN PB-1.
SGTS BE MOVED UPTO PB-2, GP 4200/- AND SGTS (TECH WITH DIP AND EDN INST)WITH BE MOVED TO 4600/- GRADE PAY, JWO TO 4800/- WO TO 5400/ IN PB-2 AND MOVE MWO AND HON COS TO PB-3.
PARA 14. PROMOTION:-
The present dispensation of 3% increase of pay on promotion is unjustified. This is given for annual increment. Annual increment and Promotion are TWO different entities. Hence at least a 10% increase in existing pay is justifiable on account of hard earned promotions/ACP/DACPs.
Para 15. ACP : In the present form it is detrimental to the interests of airmen. May be formulated on the lines of orders issued in respect of civilian employees.
APPENDIX "A"
The present Scale of pay of JWO X Group- 5530-7780 appear to be erroneously printed.
This may be corrected to 5770-8290.
The pay scales for SGT (Dip) and Edn Inst are not mentioned. May be included now.
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WEARING OF UNIFORM AFTER RETIREMENT DURING CEREMONIALS
1. All Veteran Brothers may kindly note the following guidelines for Wearing of Uniform After Retirement During Ceremonials:-
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Air Force Regulation No. 422
All permanent commissioned officer retired from service may wear service uniform on special occasions when attending ceremonials or functions of a military nature, and when the wearing of uniform would appear appropriate. The uniform of substantive rank/ two years acting rank may be worn.
Honorary Commissioned officers may wear uniform on the following occasions {barring-when dismissed on disciplinary grounds}:-
Official parties at Rashtrapathi Bhawan/Raj Bhawan
Embassy
Ex-servicemen rallies / Independence Day
National day
When appearing in courts
Aid to civil power
When serving President/Governor
Note: Prevailing uniform or uniform which was existing at the time of retirement can be worn. There is no policy on wearing of side cap alone on ceremonial or occasions as listed above
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FOR VISIT OF RETIRED PERSONNEL TO AIR FORCE STATIONS
Air Hqs vide their letter Air Hq/C 23691/3/PM(B) dated 22 Oct 03 has informed that for seeking entry to any AF installation for any purpose, only original identity card issued to AF personnel at the time of retirement /discharge is legally acceptable as proof of identity.
Photocopying of identity documents, for any purpose, is tantamount to forging of government documents which is a criminal offence. All members are advised to avoid making photo copies of identity cards even for ECHS scheme.
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Air Force Regulation No. 422
All permanent commissioned officer retired from service may wear service uniform on special occasions when attending ceremonials or functions of a military nature, and when the wearing of uniform would appear appropriate. The uniform of substantive rank/ two years acting rank may be worn.
Honorary Commissioned officers may wear uniform on the following occasions {barring-when dismissed on disciplinary grounds}:-
Official parties at Rashtrapathi Bhawan/Raj Bhawan
Embassy
Ex-servicemen rallies / Independence Day
National day
When appearing in courts
Aid to civil power
When serving President/Governor
Note: Prevailing uniform or uniform which was existing at the time of retirement can be worn. There is no policy on wearing of side cap alone on ceremonial or occasions as listed above
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FOR VISIT OF RETIRED PERSONNEL TO AIR FORCE STATIONS
Air Hqs vide their letter Air Hq/C 23691/3/PM(B) dated 22 Oct 03 has informed that for seeking entry to any AF installation for any purpose, only original identity card issued to AF personnel at the time of retirement /discharge is legally acceptable as proof of identity.
Photocopying of identity documents, for any purpose, is tantamount to forging of government documents which is a criminal offence. All members are advised to avoid making photo copies of identity cards even for ECHS scheme.
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TRAVEL CONCESSIONS TO ARMED FORCES PERSONNEL
The extracts of Air HQ/Railway Board /Air India letters on the concessions available to the AF personnel and their families is posted below for the information of all Veteran Brothers:-
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Tele: 7162 Air Headquarters (VB)
New Delhi - 110 011
Air HQ/23483/5/1/PS(Wel) 28 May 2004
Air Force Association
AF Stn, Race Course Camp
Issue of First Class/Second AC Sleeper Complementary Card Pass to the Recipients and Widows of winers of Gallantry Awards
1. Reference is made to your letter No. AFA/ASSO/124 dated 19 Mar 2004.
2. The clarification sought by you on the subject is as under:-
(a) Ist class/IInd AC Tier Complementary Cards Passes are issued by the Indian Rlys Authorities to the recipients of Gallantry Awards (SPECIALLY FOR CHAKRA SERIES AWARDS). This facility ceases after the death of the awardees.
(b) The facility for issue of complementary card pass to the widow of posthumous awardees' remain continue.
3. For availing this facility the awardee himself/widow of posthumous Awardee has to apply for issue of one Card on plain paper to the Indian Rlys Authorities concerned along with 2 photos (passport size) and service certificate.
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(ST Rajan)
Jt Dir (Wel)
Dte of PS
For Chief of Air Staff
Encl: As above.
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Government of India
Ministry of Railways
(Railway Board RBE NO. 18/96)
NO.E(W) 96 PS P-6/22 New Delhi dtd 23.02.1996
The General Managers
All Indian Railways
Sub: Issue of First Class/II AC Sleeper Complimentary Card Passes to Recipients of Gallantry Award and Widows of winners of Gallantry Awards
1. The Ministry of Railways have decided to issue Ist Class AC 2 Tierr complimentray card passes to recipients of gallantry awards like Param Vir Chakra, Mahavir Chakram Vir Chakra and to the widows of posthumous gallantry award winners, along with a companion. The pass will be available for travel from any railway station to any railway station on the Indian Railways except on Metro Railway, Calcutta. The pass will not be available by Rajdhani and Shatabdi Expresses. The pass will be issued valid for one year from the date of issue.
2. The passes will be issued by the Office of the Divisional Railway Manager and Headquarters Office of the Railways on receipt of an application on plain paper from the r3ecipient of the gallantry award or the widow of the posthumous winner of gallantry award giving the following details:-
Name of the recipient of gallantry award (in block letters)
Residential Address
Attested photocopy of citation of the gallantry award.
In case of widows of posthumous winners of gallantry award, attested copy of Pension Payment Order should also be enclosed along with photo identity card issued by local office of the Ministry of Defence.
Two copies of recent passport size photographs of the recipient of the such awards or the widows of the posthumous awardee in the case may be attested by a gazetted officer should be enclosed with the application.
3. Suitable instructions may kindly be issued in this regard to all concerned.
4. Suitable and adequate publicity may be given regarding the issue of the complimentary card passed to the recipients of gallantry awards.
5. This issues with concurrence of the finance Director of Ministry of Railways.
6. Please acknowledge receipt.
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(R Sethuraman)
Jt Director Establishment (Welfare)
Railway Board
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Indian Airlines Limited
(Commercial Headquarters)
From: To
Director Commercial General Managers Commercial
Indian Airlines Limited. Indian Airlines Limited.
New Delhi Eastern/Southern/Northern/Western Region/CSC
Ref. No. HCD/8-R/260 Date 11th June, 2001 Circular No. 1385 (Tariffs)
Clarifications on Armed Forces and Other Related Discounts
Many queries have been received by us on the grant of discounts to various categories of Armed Forces and Police Personnel. We give below the clarification of the various queries received by us.
Query (i) Are Retired Para Military Personnel entitled to the Discount?
Clarification: (i) : The discount is offered only to those Personnel of Para Military Forces who are in active service. Retired Para Military Personnel are not entitled to the discount.
Query (ii) : Are Retired Police Personnel who are recipients of Police Medals for Gallantry entitled to 75% Discount?
Clarification (ii) : Yes, Retired Police Personnel who are recipients of Police Medals for Gallantry are entitled to 75% Discount.
Query (iii) : The level of discount to be offered to Armed Forces Personnel who are in active Service (from Indian Navy, Air Force, Army) and are Recipients of Highest Bravery Awards.
Clarification (iii) : Only those Armed Forces Personnel who are in active service and are also the Recipients of Highest Bravery Awards (Level I and II ) are entitled to 75% discount. All other Armed Forces Personnel are entitled to 50% discount only.
Query (iv) : The level of Discount to be offered to the family members of the Disabled Officers?
Clarification: (iv) : The level of Discount for family members of all eligible categories of Armed Forces and associated Personnel (including Disabled Officers) is 50%, irrespective of the level of discount offered to the concerned officer.
It may please be noted that Family Members of only following categories are eligible for the discount:
(i) Armed Forces Personnel (from Indian Navy, Air Force, Army)
(ii) General Reserve Engineering Force (GREF)
(iii) War Disabled Officers
(iv) Paramilitary Forces:
- Border Security Force (BSF)
- Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF)
- Indo Tibetan Border Police (ITBP)
- Central Industrial Security Force(CISF)
- Railway Protection Force (RPF)
- SSB
- National Security Guard (NSG)
- Assam Rifles
- Coast Guards
- Intelligence Bureau
Query (v) : Are the widows of Posthumous Recipients of Bravery Awards/Gallantry Awards and other categories eligible for the discount.
Clarification: (v) : No. Only War Widows of Armed Forces Personnel (from Indian, Navy, Air Force, and Army) are eligible for discount.
Please advise all concerned.
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(Neera Manchanda)
Manager(Tariffs)
For Director Commercial
CC: G.M (F), N.R./W.R/E.R/S.R/CRA
CC: G.M. (Sales), (CS/Admn/TS), (A&I)
CC: Principal, CTC, HYD., Govt. Audit Party, Hqrs.
CC: Chief Manager Marketing, Alliance Air
CC: Dy. G.M. (Raj Bhasha), IAL, Hqrs. - For hindi translation
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Tele: 7162 Air Headquarters (VB)
New Delhi - 110 011
Air HQ/23483/5/1/PS(Wel) 28 May 2004
Air Force Association
AF Stn, Race Course Camp
Issue of First Class/Second AC Sleeper Complementary Card Pass to the Recipients and Widows of winers of Gallantry Awards
1. Reference is made to your letter No. AFA/ASSO/124 dated 19 Mar 2004.
2. The clarification sought by you on the subject is as under:-
(a) Ist class/IInd AC Tier Complementary Cards Passes are issued by the Indian Rlys Authorities to the recipients of Gallantry Awards (SPECIALLY FOR CHAKRA SERIES AWARDS). This facility ceases after the death of the awardees.
(b) The facility for issue of complementary card pass to the widow of posthumous awardees' remain continue.
3. For availing this facility the awardee himself/widow of posthumous Awardee has to apply for issue of one Card on plain paper to the Indian Rlys Authorities concerned along with 2 photos (passport size) and service certificate.
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(ST Rajan)
Jt Dir (Wel)
Dte of PS
For Chief of Air Staff
Encl: As above.
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Government of India
Ministry of Railways
(Railway Board RBE NO. 18/96)
NO.E(W) 96 PS P-6/22 New Delhi dtd 23.02.1996
The General Managers
All Indian Railways
Sub: Issue of First Class/II AC Sleeper Complimentary Card Passes to Recipients of Gallantry Award and Widows of winners of Gallantry Awards
1. The Ministry of Railways have decided to issue Ist Class AC 2 Tierr complimentray card passes to recipients of gallantry awards like Param Vir Chakra, Mahavir Chakram Vir Chakra and to the widows of posthumous gallantry award winners, along with a companion. The pass will be available for travel from any railway station to any railway station on the Indian Railways except on Metro Railway, Calcutta. The pass will not be available by Rajdhani and Shatabdi Expresses. The pass will be issued valid for one year from the date of issue.
2. The passes will be issued by the Office of the Divisional Railway Manager and Headquarters Office of the Railways on receipt of an application on plain paper from the r3ecipient of the gallantry award or the widow of the posthumous winner of gallantry award giving the following details:-
Name of the recipient of gallantry award (in block letters)
Residential Address
Attested photocopy of citation of the gallantry award.
In case of widows of posthumous winners of gallantry award, attested copy of Pension Payment Order should also be enclosed along with photo identity card issued by local office of the Ministry of Defence.
Two copies of recent passport size photographs of the recipient of the such awards or the widows of the posthumous awardee in the case may be attested by a gazetted officer should be enclosed with the application.
3. Suitable instructions may kindly be issued in this regard to all concerned.
4. Suitable and adequate publicity may be given regarding the issue of the complimentary card passed to the recipients of gallantry awards.
5. This issues with concurrence of the finance Director of Ministry of Railways.
6. Please acknowledge receipt.
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(R Sethuraman)
Jt Director Establishment (Welfare)
Railway Board
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Indian Airlines Limited
(Commercial Headquarters)
From: To
Director Commercial General Managers Commercial
Indian Airlines Limited. Indian Airlines Limited.
New Delhi Eastern/Southern/Northern/Western Region/CSC
Ref. No. HCD/8-R/260 Date 11th June, 2001 Circular No. 1385 (Tariffs)
Clarifications on Armed Forces and Other Related Discounts
Many queries have been received by us on the grant of discounts to various categories of Armed Forces and Police Personnel. We give below the clarification of the various queries received by us.
Query (i) Are Retired Para Military Personnel entitled to the Discount?
Clarification: (i) : The discount is offered only to those Personnel of Para Military Forces who are in active service. Retired Para Military Personnel are not entitled to the discount.
Query (ii) : Are Retired Police Personnel who are recipients of Police Medals for Gallantry entitled to 75% Discount?
Clarification (ii) : Yes, Retired Police Personnel who are recipients of Police Medals for Gallantry are entitled to 75% Discount.
Query (iii) : The level of discount to be offered to Armed Forces Personnel who are in active Service (from Indian Navy, Air Force, Army) and are Recipients of Highest Bravery Awards.
Clarification (iii) : Only those Armed Forces Personnel who are in active service and are also the Recipients of Highest Bravery Awards (Level I and II ) are entitled to 75% discount. All other Armed Forces Personnel are entitled to 50% discount only.
Query (iv) : The level of Discount to be offered to the family members of the Disabled Officers?
Clarification: (iv) : The level of Discount for family members of all eligible categories of Armed Forces and associated Personnel (including Disabled Officers) is 50%, irrespective of the level of discount offered to the concerned officer.
It may please be noted that Family Members of only following categories are eligible for the discount:
(i) Armed Forces Personnel (from Indian Navy, Air Force, Army)
(ii) General Reserve Engineering Force (GREF)
(iii) War Disabled Officers
(iv) Paramilitary Forces:
- Border Security Force (BSF)
- Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF)
- Indo Tibetan Border Police (ITBP)
- Central Industrial Security Force(CISF)
- Railway Protection Force (RPF)
- SSB
- National Security Guard (NSG)
- Assam Rifles
- Coast Guards
- Intelligence Bureau
Query (v) : Are the widows of Posthumous Recipients of Bravery Awards/Gallantry Awards and other categories eligible for the discount.
Clarification: (v) : No. Only War Widows of Armed Forces Personnel (from Indian, Navy, Air Force, and Army) are eligible for discount.
Please advise all concerned.
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(Neera Manchanda)
Manager(Tariffs)
For Director Commercial
CC: G.M (F), N.R./W.R/E.R/S.R/CRA
CC: G.M. (Sales), (CS/Admn/TS), (A&I)
CC: Principal, CTC, HYD., Govt. Audit Party, Hqrs.
CC: Chief Manager Marketing, Alliance Air
CC: Dy. G.M. (Raj Bhasha), IAL, Hqrs. - For hindi translation
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Saturday, October 3, 2009
AN EX-SAINIK'S CLOSE LOOK AT THE CoS REPORT : IMPORTANT DATA/INTERESTING FACTS REVEALED
1. Knowing well and fully aware that the CoS Report of 30.6.09 is pasted on the blog's "Other Links", the following highlighted view points of an EX SAINIK, is posted for the benefit of information of all Veteran Brothers:-
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That the CoS consisted of Secretary, ESM Welfare, Secretary, DOPT, Secretary, Pens&Pens Wel, Secretary Expenditure, Home Secretary, Defence Secretary and headed by the Cabinet Secretary.
That the OROP implied by them as " that UNIFORM PENSION BE PAID TO THE ARMED FORCES PENSIONERS RETIRING IN THE SAME RANK WITH THE SAME LENGTH OF SERVICE, IRRESPECTIVE OF THEIR DATE OF RETIREMENT,
AND, ANY FUTURE ENHANCEMENTS IN THE RATES OF PENSION BE AUTOMATICALLY PASSED ON TO THE PAST PENSIONERS."
That the demand for grant of OROP was considered by the Govt. a number of times in the past. In 1980-81(29 years ago), The Estimates Committee on Resettlement of ESM noted the DISPARITY IN PENSION between past and present Pensioners of equal rank was INEQUITABLE and a JUST SOLUTION be found to END THIS DISPARITY.
That, in 1984, the High Level Empowered Committee on the Problems of ESM headed by Shri KP Singh Deo, the then RRM, recommended that the 4th CPC may consider the issue particularly in the light of the PRINCIPLE ESTABLISHED regarding the PENSION OF JUDGES OF SUPREME COURT AND HIGH COURTS.
That the 4th CPC stated that the amount of pension UNDERGOES CHANGES AS AND WHEN PAY SCALES ARE REVISED and any attempt to equivalise pension w.r.t. the Revised Scales of Pay would amount to RETROSPECTIVE APPLICATION OF PAY SCALES.
Subsequently,in 1991, another High Level Empowered Committee chaired by the then RM, Shri Sharad Pawar, while rejecting OROP demand, had observed that the TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF SERVICE of Armed Forces Personnel were DISTINCT and as such a SPECIAL DISPENSATION for them was required. Based on this, grant of a ONE TIME INCREASE (OTI) was recommended and GRANTED.
That the 5th CPC nearly granted the pensions by bridging the gap inthe pensions of Pre and Post 1.1.86 and upgraded to the levels of 1.1.96 pensioners.
That in 2003, an Inter Ministerial Committee on OROP submitted report on 29.4.04 recommending Modified Parity based on the Maximum of the Revised Scales of pay introduced w.e.f.1.1.96 but was rejected by the Ministry of Finance.
That in Jan 2005, the PM ordered a GoM Committee to look into the issue which recommended that THERE WAS JUSTIFICATION FOR IMPROVING THE PENSION BENEFITS OF ORS, PARTICULARLY THE THREE LOWEST RANKS, and unanimously recommended that the PENSIONS OF PRE 1.1.96 Pensioners may be revised w.r.t. Maximum of Pay Scale of Post 96 Pay Scales. In addition, weightage of 10,8 and 6 years be given to lower 3 ranks. And the benefit was given effect w.e.f.1.1.2006.
That the 6th CPC stated that the 5th CPC had already granted full parity between pre and post 1.1.86 and a modified parity between pre and post 1.1.96 pensioners, no change is proposed in the existing dispensation. Hence extant provisions may continue.
That the CoS had heavily relied for NOT ACCEDING TO THE DEMAND OF OROP on the information provided in paras 2.11 (SC Judgement), 2.12(View of Min of Law and Justice), 2.13(second view of Min of Law & Just), 2.14 (Mod persistant view that A STONG CASE DEFINITELY EXISTS for bringing the QUANTUM OF PENSION of Pre 96/10.10.97 Pensioners AT PAR WITH Post 1.1.96/ 10.10.97 and the Pre 1.1.96 pensions as the gap between the pensions of the past and present retirees has WIDENED after implementation of 6th CPC, AND
THAT the Grant of OROP CANNOT BE IMPLEMENTED for ESM alone and a DEMAND for similar DISPENSATION WOULD ALSO ARISE from pensioners of AUTONOMOUS BODIES, Central/StateUNIVERSITIES/COLLEGES and in ALL OTHER INSTITUTIONS WHERE THE PENSION SCHEME IS APPLICABLE.
AND the financial implications would then be substantial.
AND THAT BY SUMMING UP IN PARA 3, THEY HAVE REJECTED THE OROP.
AND RECOMMENDED THE FOLLOWING:-
TO RECKON THE PENSION OF ALL PRE-1.1.06 PENSIONERS WITH REFERENCE TO A NOTIONAL MAXIMUM IN THE POST 1.1.2006 REVISED PAY STRUCTURE CORRESPONDING TO THE MAXIMUM OF PRE-SIXTH PC PAY SCALES AS PER FITMENT TABLE OF EACH RANK
AND ALSO TO CONTINUE WEIGHTAGE OF 10,8 AND 6 YEARS TO LOWER 3 RANKS.
And most SURPRISINGLY, in Para 9 of the Report,
That the FINANCIAL IMPLICATIONS, on account of ARREARS (totalling 9 a)Rs.7.73+b)Rs.4.83+c)Rs.25.00 cr= Rs.37.56 cr) was (ERRONEOUSLY?) shown as Rs.164.5 cr.
VETERAN BROTHERS, imagine, HOW difficult it was to CoS to reject the OROP demand of ESM !
BUT, WAIT, WITH THE SAME SET OF REASONS AND JUSTIFICATIONS, IT COULD HAVE BEEN MUCH EASIER FOR THE CoS TO ACCEPT AND GRANT THE OROP!!
AND MADE THE ENTIRE ESM COMMUNITY A HAPPY LOT !!!
IS THAT RIGHT !!!!!??????????
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OROP RECHRISTINED AS AVPD (ARMED FORCES VETERANS' PENSION DEMAND)
Maj Gen RN Radhakrishnan (Retd), in his detailed analysis of CoS Report (To see the full report, CLICK HERE ) had re-christined the OROP as Armed Forces Veterans' Pension Demand (AVPD) and summarised the same as below:-
“Let the pay of all pensioners of the Armed Forces be notionally fixed at the rate given to similar officers of the same rank and same length of service after the revision of pay scales with effect from 1.1.2006, and, thereafter, their pension benefits be computed on such basis as applicable to those retiring after the date of implementation with prospective effect from the same date of implementation.
Permit the pensioners to draw an annual increment at the rate applicable to the serving personnel, such that the disparity, if any, that arises due to such increment to the serving personnel, can be set right.
Let a suitable element of compensation, in addition, be allowed for the truncation of service before the age of superannuation permissible for any employee as a matter of right.”
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That the CoS consisted of Secretary, ESM Welfare, Secretary, DOPT, Secretary, Pens&Pens Wel, Secretary Expenditure, Home Secretary, Defence Secretary and headed by the Cabinet Secretary.
That the OROP implied by them as " that UNIFORM PENSION BE PAID TO THE ARMED FORCES PENSIONERS RETIRING IN THE SAME RANK WITH THE SAME LENGTH OF SERVICE, IRRESPECTIVE OF THEIR DATE OF RETIREMENT,
AND, ANY FUTURE ENHANCEMENTS IN THE RATES OF PENSION BE AUTOMATICALLY PASSED ON TO THE PAST PENSIONERS."
That the demand for grant of OROP was considered by the Govt. a number of times in the past. In 1980-81(29 years ago), The Estimates Committee on Resettlement of ESM noted the DISPARITY IN PENSION between past and present Pensioners of equal rank was INEQUITABLE and a JUST SOLUTION be found to END THIS DISPARITY.
That, in 1984, the High Level Empowered Committee on the Problems of ESM headed by Shri KP Singh Deo, the then RRM, recommended that the 4th CPC may consider the issue particularly in the light of the PRINCIPLE ESTABLISHED regarding the PENSION OF JUDGES OF SUPREME COURT AND HIGH COURTS.
That the 4th CPC stated that the amount of pension UNDERGOES CHANGES AS AND WHEN PAY SCALES ARE REVISED and any attempt to equivalise pension w.r.t. the Revised Scales of Pay would amount to RETROSPECTIVE APPLICATION OF PAY SCALES.
Subsequently,in 1991, another High Level Empowered Committee chaired by the then RM, Shri Sharad Pawar, while rejecting OROP demand, had observed that the TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF SERVICE of Armed Forces Personnel were DISTINCT and as such a SPECIAL DISPENSATION for them was required. Based on this, grant of a ONE TIME INCREASE (OTI) was recommended and GRANTED.
That the 5th CPC nearly granted the pensions by bridging the gap inthe pensions of Pre and Post 1.1.86 and upgraded to the levels of 1.1.96 pensioners.
That in 2003, an Inter Ministerial Committee on OROP submitted report on 29.4.04 recommending Modified Parity based on the Maximum of the Revised Scales of pay introduced w.e.f.1.1.96 but was rejected by the Ministry of Finance.
That in Jan 2005, the PM ordered a GoM Committee to look into the issue which recommended that THERE WAS JUSTIFICATION FOR IMPROVING THE PENSION BENEFITS OF ORS, PARTICULARLY THE THREE LOWEST RANKS, and unanimously recommended that the PENSIONS OF PRE 1.1.96 Pensioners may be revised w.r.t. Maximum of Pay Scale of Post 96 Pay Scales. In addition, weightage of 10,8 and 6 years be given to lower 3 ranks. And the benefit was given effect w.e.f.1.1.2006.
That the 6th CPC stated that the 5th CPC had already granted full parity between pre and post 1.1.86 and a modified parity between pre and post 1.1.96 pensioners, no change is proposed in the existing dispensation. Hence extant provisions may continue.
That the CoS had heavily relied for NOT ACCEDING TO THE DEMAND OF OROP on the information provided in paras 2.11 (SC Judgement), 2.12(View of Min of Law and Justice), 2.13(second view of Min of Law & Just), 2.14 (Mod persistant view that A STONG CASE DEFINITELY EXISTS for bringing the QUANTUM OF PENSION of Pre 96/10.10.97 Pensioners AT PAR WITH Post 1.1.96/ 10.10.97 and the Pre 1.1.96 pensions as the gap between the pensions of the past and present retirees has WIDENED after implementation of 6th CPC, AND
THAT the Grant of OROP CANNOT BE IMPLEMENTED for ESM alone and a DEMAND for similar DISPENSATION WOULD ALSO ARISE from pensioners of AUTONOMOUS BODIES, Central/StateUNIVERSITIES/COLLEGES and in ALL OTHER INSTITUTIONS WHERE THE PENSION SCHEME IS APPLICABLE.
AND the financial implications would then be substantial.
AND THAT BY SUMMING UP IN PARA 3, THEY HAVE REJECTED THE OROP.
AND RECOMMENDED THE FOLLOWING:-
TO RECKON THE PENSION OF ALL PRE-1.1.06 PENSIONERS WITH REFERENCE TO A NOTIONAL MAXIMUM IN THE POST 1.1.2006 REVISED PAY STRUCTURE CORRESPONDING TO THE MAXIMUM OF PRE-SIXTH PC PAY SCALES AS PER FITMENT TABLE OF EACH RANK
AND ALSO TO CONTINUE WEIGHTAGE OF 10,8 AND 6 YEARS TO LOWER 3 RANKS.
And most SURPRISINGLY, in Para 9 of the Report,
That the FINANCIAL IMPLICATIONS, on account of ARREARS (totalling 9 a)Rs.7.73+b)Rs.4.83+c)Rs.25.00 cr= Rs.37.56 cr) was (ERRONEOUSLY?) shown as Rs.164.5 cr.
VETERAN BROTHERS, imagine, HOW difficult it was to CoS to reject the OROP demand of ESM !
BUT, WAIT, WITH THE SAME SET OF REASONS AND JUSTIFICATIONS, IT COULD HAVE BEEN MUCH EASIER FOR THE CoS TO ACCEPT AND GRANT THE OROP!!
AND MADE THE ENTIRE ESM COMMUNITY A HAPPY LOT !!!
IS THAT RIGHT !!!!!??????????
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OROP RECHRISTINED AS AVPD (ARMED FORCES VETERANS' PENSION DEMAND)
Maj Gen RN Radhakrishnan (Retd), in his detailed analysis of CoS Report (To see the full report, CLICK HERE ) had re-christined the OROP as Armed Forces Veterans' Pension Demand (AVPD) and summarised the same as below:-
“Let the pay of all pensioners of the Armed Forces be notionally fixed at the rate given to similar officers of the same rank and same length of service after the revision of pay scales with effect from 1.1.2006, and, thereafter, their pension benefits be computed on such basis as applicable to those retiring after the date of implementation with prospective effect from the same date of implementation.
Permit the pensioners to draw an annual increment at the rate applicable to the serving personnel, such that the disparity, if any, that arises due to such increment to the serving personnel, can be set right.
Let a suitable element of compensation, in addition, be allowed for the truncation of service before the age of superannuation permissible for any employee as a matter of right.”
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Friday, October 2, 2009
FLASH ! FLASH !! FLASH !!! ; SUBMISSION OF OPTION FOR PENSION COMMUTATION - DATE EXTENDED BY 30 DAYS
1. ALL VETERAN BROTHERS ARE REQUESTED TO NOTE THEMSELVES AND ALSO INFORM OTHER FRIENDS TO SUBMIT THE OPTION FORMS FOR COMMUTATION OF PENSION, AS PER THE LATEST ORDER OF GOVT OF INDIA, MINISTRY OF DEFENCE, ORDER DATED 11 SEP 09.
FOR VIEWING THE ORDER, PLEASE CLICK HERE
FOR VIEWING THE ORDER, PLEASE CLICK HERE
"PAY ARREARS BEFORE DIWALI" - HON.RM AK ANTONY'S DIWALI GIFT TO THE ARMED FORCES
1. The following IMPORTANT INFORMATION is posted foir the benefit of all concerned:-
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The Defence Minister Shri AK Antony has stressed that all men in the Armed Forces must get all their pay arrears relating to the Sixth Central Pay Commission well in time before Diwali. Addressing the Defence Accounts Day function here today, Shri Antony commended the officials of the Controller General of Defence Accounts for adopting computerisation and speeding-up the salary computation systems.
“One of the major challenges before you all is to render prompt, efficient and hassle free pensionary services to nearly 2 million Ex-servicemen and other retired Defence Personnel”, Shri Antony said. The Defence Minister called upon the Defence Accounts officials to implement optimally the austerity measures announced recently by the Government. “The Prime Minister has underlined the importance of service delivery mechanisms”, he added.
Pointing out that the Defence outlay has been growing around 11 per cent per annum over the last few years, Shri Antony called upon the Defence Accounts Department to ensure fair utilisation of the revenue resources and capital spending for the Defence sector. The Defence Minister later released a vision document for the department. He applauded the department for its valuable contributions in rationalising and simplifying the complicated processes and procedures in the Defence Procurement Manual – 2009.
Earlier, the Controller General of Defence Accounts Smt Bulbul Ghosh announced that a pilot project for payment of salaries to all Personnel Below Officer Rank (PBORs) irrespective of their place of posting and location of their drawing branches through e-payment has been successful and it would be implemented shortly across the country. Speaking on the occasion, the Secretary Defence Finance Smt Indu Liberhan emphasized on the performance audit appraisal system and said though the challenge is daunting, we have to rise to the occasion to fulfil the mandate given to the department.
The Defence Accounts Department (DAD), with its 998 offices spread over 258 locations across the country, handles an annual budget of Rs 1,81,306 crores (2009-10), which accounts for 26% of the total non-plan outlay of the Government of India.
It provides accounting services to the Ministry of Defence, the three Services, and allied organizations like Ordnance Factories, CSD, Military Farms, DRDO, Border Roads Organisation (BRO), Defence Estates, Coast Guard and NCC. Apart from this, officers from the Indian Defence Accounts Service (IDAS), including lady officers, are deployed with the Indian troops on UN Peacekeeping Missions in various troubled spots of the world where they provide valuable financial management, accounting and payment support.
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(Source : CG Employees News 1.10.09)
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The Defence Minister Shri AK Antony has stressed that all men in the Armed Forces must get all their pay arrears relating to the Sixth Central Pay Commission well in time before Diwali. Addressing the Defence Accounts Day function here today, Shri Antony commended the officials of the Controller General of Defence Accounts for adopting computerisation and speeding-up the salary computation systems.
“One of the major challenges before you all is to render prompt, efficient and hassle free pensionary services to nearly 2 million Ex-servicemen and other retired Defence Personnel”, Shri Antony said. The Defence Minister called upon the Defence Accounts officials to implement optimally the austerity measures announced recently by the Government. “The Prime Minister has underlined the importance of service delivery mechanisms”, he added.
Pointing out that the Defence outlay has been growing around 11 per cent per annum over the last few years, Shri Antony called upon the Defence Accounts Department to ensure fair utilisation of the revenue resources and capital spending for the Defence sector. The Defence Minister later released a vision document for the department. He applauded the department for its valuable contributions in rationalising and simplifying the complicated processes and procedures in the Defence Procurement Manual – 2009.
Earlier, the Controller General of Defence Accounts Smt Bulbul Ghosh announced that a pilot project for payment of salaries to all Personnel Below Officer Rank (PBORs) irrespective of their place of posting and location of their drawing branches through e-payment has been successful and it would be implemented shortly across the country. Speaking on the occasion, the Secretary Defence Finance Smt Indu Liberhan emphasized on the performance audit appraisal system and said though the challenge is daunting, we have to rise to the occasion to fulfil the mandate given to the department.
The Defence Accounts Department (DAD), with its 998 offices spread over 258 locations across the country, handles an annual budget of Rs 1,81,306 crores (2009-10), which accounts for 26% of the total non-plan outlay of the Government of India.
It provides accounting services to the Ministry of Defence, the three Services, and allied organizations like Ordnance Factories, CSD, Military Farms, DRDO, Border Roads Organisation (BRO), Defence Estates, Coast Guard and NCC. Apart from this, officers from the Indian Defence Accounts Service (IDAS), including lady officers, are deployed with the Indian troops on UN Peacekeeping Missions in various troubled spots of the world where they provide valuable financial management, accounting and payment support.
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(Source : CG Employees News 1.10.09)
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